MINUTES OF MEETING TURTLE RUN
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT

A regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the Turtle Run Community Development District was held on Monday, June 24, 2024, at 6:00 p.m. at the Coral Bay Recreation Center, 3101 South Bay Drive, Margate, Florida.

Present and constituting a quorum:
Skip Carney	Chairman
Zaida Karnegis	Vice Chairman
Lance Morgan	Assistant Secretary
Barry Winfree	Assistant Secretary
Rob Shipe	Assistant Secretary (via telecommunications) Also present were:
Julio Padilla	District Manager
Michael Pawelczyk	District Counsel
Jonathan Geiger	District Engineer
Pat Szozda	Governmental Management Services
Patrick Burgess	GMS (via telecommunication)
Kyle Whitmire	Flock Safety Residents

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS	Roll Call
Mr. Carney called the meeting to order, and Mr. Padilla called the roll.

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS	Moment of Silence
Mr. Carney led a moment of silence.

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS	Pledge of Allegiance
Mr. Carney led the Pledge of Allegiance.

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Good News
Mr. Carney: Does anybody have any good news? Mr. Winfree: It is raining.

Mr. Carney: Barry, you signed on for another four years for the Turtle Run Community Development District, that is good news.

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Public Comment Mr. Carney: Public comments, Debbie, do you have anything? Ms. Devlin: What is going on with the playground?
Mr. Carney: A couple of things happening with the playground. One was there was a change in Boards. There was a meeting that took place back in February where the Foundation Board approved to move forward with the $65,000 but it was never put through. Not too long ago I found out it wasn’t put through and I notified Clarence and Clarence is moving forward so we should pretty soon get the monies approved. The donation money from both sides and then the city will put in their amount of money. That is where we are. I think we are within probably days of moving forward. It has taken quite some time I know.
Mr. Morgan: One more thing Deb. The conversation I had today with one of the park’s people said they are going to start dismantling the current swing set that is up there probably within the next two weeks from what they told me today. That was just a parks worker I spoke with, not anybody in authority. That is what he understands.
Mr. Carney: There was just a gap that had to be filled, that is all. Anything else?
Thank you, good question. Philippe?
Mr. Philippe: I live on 41st Street and the people mowing in the back around the park and all that they do is a very good job, however, the strip that is by the houses three or four, it has not been mowed for probably two months.
Mr. Morgan: From the fence to the lake area? Mr. Philippe: Yes.
Mr. Morgan: We had that problem once before and Art said well, we never mowed that. We will instruct him to do that. It is an oversight on their part. They are supposed to be doing it.
Mr. Philippe: Thank you for saying. That was actually what they were saying. My mom approached them, and they said that was supposed to be HOA, not us. There were

a couple of trees behind my house I have been trimming the lower branches, so it doesn’t bother the people. I thought that was the case but that is not the case.
Mr. Morgan: Pat, can you address that? Mr. Szozda: Yes, I know exactly where. Mr. Morgan: We went through this with Art.
Mr. Carney: Were we not doing it for a reason?
Mr. Szozda: They thought it was the homeowner's responsibility and obviously it is not because it is on our property. It is on the other side of the fence.
Mr. Carney: It is hard for it to be the homeowner's responsibility when they have no access.
Mr. Philippe: I am going to give you a clue why they thought that was the case. Next to my house there was a house that had a section of the fence that was removed, and his landscaper was going in the back and mowing that. That is probably why they thought that was not theirs.
Mr. Szozda: That is an easy fix. I will get that straightened out.
Mr. Carney: Typically without the fence it is the homeowner's responsibility to mow down to the lake edge but since the fence was put up it is no longer the homeowner's responsibility. Also, the grass even in the easement is getting crazy high. I know we have had a lot of rain. I get that. Ok, sir anything you want to share with us?
A resident: No.
Mr. Carney: Thanks for coming we appreciate it. Ok, presentation.

SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Presentation – Flock Safety
7 Cameras
14 Cameras
16 Cameras
Mr. Carney: Flock Safety, you are on.
Mr. Whitmire: The last time I was here if I can recap briefly for you, it was suggested by the Coral Springs Police Department that I make contact with the CDD Board and bring forward a proposal for license plate reader cameras. I met with you guys last time and gave a full presentation so Skip I believe it was you that asked me to come up with some

proposals and submit it. At that point, I have done that. I went and did some research on the different entrances and exits into the overall CDD. What I have been able to find and please correct me if I am wrong, but what I have been able to find is there are seven entrances and exits into the CDD that you would consider critical. I believe with that one shopping plaza there a few ancillary ways to get into the CDD, but we would still be able to cover all those entrances without having to add additional cameras. Seven cameras will still suffice to cover all the entrances. So, what I have provided you all with is a quote for a good, better, and best scenario. What we have and I will read it to you all here is a good coverage would be the seven-entrance inbound, cover all seven inbound entrances into the CDD. A better scenario would be 14 LPR cameras inbound and outbound and then a best, and Lance we discussed this before the meeting, this may or may not be applicable I noticed that it looked like there were eight unique sub-associations within the CDD that is according to my own research there may be more, there may be less. Again please feel free to chime in if I am off on that. The best scenario would be if you all were to install LPR cameras outside of the entrances and exits to those individual sub- associations. Each one of those scenarios comes with a discount. I believe personally in just bringing the best offer forward then trying to haggle and negotiate something. What you will see is I also included incentives with those offers. For the good coverage of the seven initial cameras I am extending you all a 25% discount on installation. With the better coverage for 14 cameras, the offer is for 50% off of installation, and for the quote-unquote best coverage, the offer is for 100% off of installation.
Mr. Carney: You have to help me out here, I don’t see where it says installation anywhere.
Mr. Whitmire: That is actually in an email. On the itemized quote there should be something about an implementation fee on there. This is the proposal that I have brought forward. I don’t know if you guys have questions for me, but I wanted to make myself available with you all to discuss the proposal or to answer any questions that you have.
Mr. Winfree: You don’t happen to have a map of where the seven would be? Mr. Whitmire: Not offhand I don’t.

Mr. Morgan: It will probably be Wiles Road, Creekside, Tortoise, State Road 7, Sample Road, Terrapin, Turtle Run Boulevard, and the one by Lowe’s, Turtle Creek. Can you pull up Turtle Run in its entirety?
Mr. Carney: I guess my question would be if you have inbound, would you need outbound?
Mr. Whitmire: It is not required if that is what you are asking. There is definitely a use case in the event that outbound helps law enforcement in cases of investigation. It helps them determine the date and time. Then in the scenario that a vehicle is stolen out of the CDD you also have a record of that vehicle leaving as the potential suspect as well as leaving the community. There are benefits certainly to inbound and outbound scenarios. Having said that, there is not some sort of requirement. You certainly can do all inbound.
Mr. Morgan: Can you shrink it down so we can see it in its entirety?
Mr. Carney: Let me ask you a question, it says subtotal year one is $22,050. The next line is the annual recurring subtotal of $17,500. Explain those two lines.
Mr. Whitmire: Our entire program is structured like a lease. It is based on a two- year agreement. The initial year is the subscription fee plus the installation fee. The second year is just the subscription fee and if you choose to renew after the second year we would continue with just the subscription fee. I don’t believe that any of those quotes you have in your hand actually reflect a discount. Obviously, I offered you guys some incentives as well so that is not a final. That is just an itemized quote, not a final.
Mr. Carney: Adding the subtotal year one together with the annual recurring, they are adding those two together, is that correct?
Mr. Whitmire: Correct. It is year-over-year billing, so it is not all due at one time. Mr. Winfree: That is for the whole contract.
Mr. Whitmire: Correct.
Mr. Morgan: So option one would be $39,500 for a two-year program? Mr. Whitmire: Yes.
Mr. Winfree: Now I am assuming when you said there was 8 different places that go in and out.
Mr. Whitmire: Seven.

Mr. Winfree: You said there were 8 HOA’s and that is about correct but one of the HOAs originally we talked about if we did it for each street or whatever one of the HOAs has three different ingresses so that kind of jumps that number up. What were you doing with the sixteen? Why are you offering sixteen?
Mr. Whitmire: That was based on just an observation again more or less sounds like there might be more according to what you are saying. I noticed about 8 so the thought was any entrance an inbound and outbound camera. This sounds like some associations actually have more than one entrance.
Mr. Winfree: Correct. One has two more so that would bump that up too. That was inbound and outbound so that would jump that up to 20 then, right?
Mr. Whitmire: Correct. All this to be fair is also scalable. We can come back with a different figure and a different offer as well. It doesn’t have to be these three scenarios.
Mr. Winfree: Going back to your point Lance I see two coming in off of Wiles right and then off of Sample there is only one that comes into Creekside. We are not going to do anything with the shopping center. Then off of Sample, we have three. So six the way I add them up.
Mr. Whitmire: Julio, it might be helpful to hit this button, the satellite button, and then you can actually click the word Turtle Run, it should highlight the entire District. What I was looking at was one, two, three, four, five, six and I believe we had a seventh. I think it is six then.
Mr. Winfree: I came up with six, so I was wondering. So that would cover pretty much everything coming in and out depending on where we put them, that would probably cover 90% of it. It would cover everything but Windsor, is that their name now?
Mr. Whitmire: Are you talking about a sub-association?
Mr. Winfree: Yes, they are off of Wiles, and they are their own entrance. It is not a
street.
Mr. Morgan: That is probably where you are getting seven from. Mr. Geiger: The access road by Steak n Shake?
Mr. Morgan: No, up by the new apartments on Wiles where we just did the work. Mr. Winfree: That covers seven, then if we put one in specifically for them they
wouldn’t have anything.

Mr. Whitmire: They are part of the CDD as shareholders.
Mr. Winfree: Correct. They are one of the three apartment complexes. That would be the seven then if we want to cover all the access points.
Mr. Whitmire: What other questions do you have for me? Mr. Carney: Anybody have any questions?
Mr. Morgan: Option 1 would be the basic option and scalable as to our needs. Did you have an opportunity to take a look at the roundabout?
Mr. Whitmire: I don’t know if that was pointed out to me. Can you tell me where it is on the map here?
Mr. Morgan: If we have every entrance covered, we already have cameras there I guess there is really no need to have them in the roundabout. That was my question. Do you see the need to have any cameras anywhere else in Turtle Run except for at the entrances?
Mr. Whitmire: Well, I think it depends on what our goal is. If you are wanting surveillance cameras for common areas or parks or things of that nature then possibly. We do provide solar-powered surveillance cameras as well. We have PTZ cameras, and we also have fixed-position cameras. There are two options there but from a vehicular perspective, I think the seven inbound is your bare minimum to cover all the entrances.
Mr. Winfree: Julio, can you shrink that back down a little bit, please? Basically we would put one on each end?
Mr. Whitmire: The idea would be to have them; the goal would be if we are talking about just inbound cameras you want to have here somewhere on the right-hand side where Turtle Run CDD property starts. It is going to shoot this lane. It is inbound into the community. It has the ability to capture two lanes. It looks like and correct me if I am wrong, it looks like these are two lane roads coming in. It does have the ability to capture both lanes. We put it on the right-hand side.
Mr. Carney: I think the Board will have to have a conversation about are we interested or not. It sounds like the Board is interested. Our budget for the year is already done so we have to take a look at the finances and where it would come from if we indeed did it. That is where we are right now at that stage. I am not saying it is going to happen and I am not saying it is not going to happen, but first off, does the Board like it and is it

something we want to proceed forward with? If they do, then we need to look at the budget and see how we can manipulate the numbers and see how we can make it work.
Mr. Whitmire: Sure.
Mr. Carney: That is where we are as far as that process.
Mr. Winfree: To Jonathan’s point, if you really look at Sample Road or Route 7 rather you are missing that whole thing coming in there where the Steak n Shake is. You are missing that because they can just come right in there and they miss every camera we have.
Mr. Carney: Where is Steak n Shake at?
Mr. Winfree: Right there. See that ingress right there?
Mr. Whitmire: Honestly I think this road was probably my seventh that I didn’t see on the last satellite image. That is probably what I was taking into account for seven. Whether that would be here or further in as you get closer to the CDD. They are all considered part of the shareholders?
Mr. Winfree: Yes.
Mr. Carney: I think the next step would be to get a map, mark the spots or locations that we are looking at, and then we can take a look at that. Then we can decide if it is something that we want to do and if we do, then we have to move forward and figure out how we will finance it.
Mr. Morgan: This is part of security for Turtle Run. It could actually be a capital improvement for us for security reasons. I like the idea and I think we should do at least a basic package, identify any other needs we might need and scale up from there. That would be my opinion.
Ms. Karnegis: You said these numbers do not include the discount correct, so if we can have that.
Mr. Whitmire: If we are choosing a package tentatively then I can certainly move forward by providing a map for you, a discount, and all of those things. That could be my next step and I think maybe in the meantime I don’t know if you plan to discuss this in a month’s time and see if there is interest or if it is something you have time for tonight. What does that process look like for you guys?

Mr. Carney: Well it sounds like the Board is interested. Now with that said, then it is going to take time to go back to look at the finances. That can’t happen today. In the meantime, we would like to have all the areas marked. Obviously, you want to put your best price on the table. We can try to negotiate the terms if possible and we go from there.
Mr. Whitmire: Sounds good.
Mr. Winfree: These are strictly LPRs? They are not any face recognition? You are saying the driver taking the vehicle out, all they would do is take the back license plate, not a picture of the person.
Mr. Whitmire: Let me explain that. Yes, they are strictly LPR cameras. They are smart cameras, so they are equipped with AI. They have the ability to capture a license plate as well as every distinguishable trait or characteristic of the vehicle. It is not equipped with facial recognition technology or signature mapping, anything like that would be considered invasive or a collection of personal information. However, it is a motion- activated camera so it will capture anything that moves in front of it at 5 frames per second. That doesn’t suggest that it should be a substitute for a surveillance camera but if somebody were to walk in front of it and they were to be facing the camera it would get five frames per second of imaging. It is a clear enough image to use if necessary. But again no facial recognition.
Mr. Winfree: What about a vehicle coming towards it? Would you see the driver?
Mr. Whitmire: Not with enough clarity. If you had secondary software that had the ability to blow an image up and make it clear yes, you could probably do something with it but not from our platform.
Mr. Winfree: The two things that I see is we are missing the apartments, and we are missing the condos completely both of them.
Mr. Carney: Which condo?
Mr. Winfree: All this here and all of Cypress. Mr. Morgan: Cypress Pointe, Rebecca’s area. Mr. Winfree: There is two missing.
Mr. Morgan: Cypress Pointe is directly across from the main entrance.
Mr. Whitmire: So we are talking about eight then total? That is the thing I think I need to walk away with is maybe just the final numbers so that I can provide them.

Mr. Morgan: I would say nine if you are going to do one on Wiles Road. Mr. Carney: You had seven and you added two.
Mr. Winfree: The seven included that little bit by the Steak n Shake? Mr. Morgan: Yes.
Mr. Winfree: Then adding Windsor and then adding Cypress Pointe.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Jonathan and I were talking. We also need to make sure we have a property entrance where we can put the camera. We don’t think there is anything by Steak n Shake where we can put any cameras. We have no property there.
Mr. Geiger: It is all private stuff.
Mr. Whitmire: Is there city-owned property?
Mr. Pawelczyk: I think the city would work with us. That is why I think have this gentleman work with Julio or Pat to identify the locations so he can bring them back and see where we have the property to put these things.
Mr. Winfree: There is a city right-of-way where that bank is and everything. I know we were going through that a few months ago, who owned that property, it was the city, the whole street coming in.
Mr. Whitmire: Is it considered Coral Springs? Mr. Geiger: The roads are all Coral Springs.
Mr. Whitmire: Good to know. We actually have a permitting team, and we will obtain the permits. It is not something that has to be on your plate. That is 100% on our plate to obtain the permits and we do it all the time. So that is something we can take care of.
Mr. Morgan: Ok, good.
Mr. Carney: How do we deal with the condos where it says private property? How do we deal with that?
Mr. Pawelczyk: You would need an easement.
Mr. Morgan: We have an easement with Cypress Pointe already. Mr. Pawelczyk: It has to be an easement for security cameras.
Mr. Winfree: It would have to be a separate easement.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Or you just add to it. That is why if you identify those locations you can determine that. Then you can look, and you can determine if you even need one for

the entrance to the apartment complex. As long as you have them at the main entrances maybe you don’t need them for a particular subdivision entrance. I don’t know the answer to that question.
Mr. Winfree: The only way to get into Cypress and to the other is off of the main
roads.
Mr. Carney: So Julio are you going to work on this on mapping the locations? Mr. Padilla: Yes.
Mr. Whitmire: I will call you tomorrow and we can set up a time to do a mapping
call and we will go from there. I appreciate your time.
Mr. Morgan: Kyle, can you set it up a la carte a little bit? This way the Board can pick and choose just to make it simpler so we don’t have to send you back to do more work and we can talk numbers. I am for it. Skip and maybe the other Board members are for it but let’s have the numbers down, what we want, how many we want, a la carte somehow maybe so we can see it. We can add or take away depending on what the Board wants, this way we don’t have to go back refigure and come back to the Board again and we don’t delay it.
Mr. Whitmire: Ok so you are looking for individual pricing per unit?
Mr. Morgan: Possibly you can do it all together but also give us an opportunity to take something out or add another one so we can move forward with it instead of you going and coming back.
Mr. Whitmire: Yes absolutely. What I will do is give a price breakdown and email it, so you understand what that price per unit is plus the installation.
Mr. Morgan: Right.
Mr. Whitmire: Again there is no minimum if you will. If you wanted to start with four for some reason you certainly could. I will provide just the price per unit for you guys and then I will also provide an actual quote with the discount built-in for nine cameras. I think that is the number we are agreeing on at this point, correct?
Mr. Morgan: Yes.
Mr. Carney: What number can you be reached at?
Mr. Whitmire: My number is 480-573-6890. My name is Kyle again if you haven’t caught it before. Thank you guys I appreciate it.

Mr. Morgan: Thank you.
Mr. Carney: Thanks for coming. We appreciate it. Julio, you will take care of that? Mr. Padilla: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carney: Clarence.
Mr. Lohman: Can I offer an opinion on this? I am not going to talk bad about it or try to tell you one way or the other what to do because we probably are going to put one in Newport if I can work not having this gigantic pole somewhere sticking out like a sore thumb but the locations that you were talking about some of the places you are going to get it but all it is going to tell you is that somebody drove through. I think the important places are going into communities. Coming off of Sample going down Terrapin if they are just driving through there the police all are going to know if there was a car that went through there. If they are chasing somebody and they want a really hard nose track then they can go back and look. For them to say a vehicle went down there, we need to react by that time as he could be halfway up 441 somewhere.
Mr. Morgan: This is more of an investigative tool that the cops are going to use to catch the bad guy. Obviously cops are 5 or 10, in Coral Springs 15 or 20 minutes away but this is an investigative tool to help us investigate crimes after they happen for the most part. They do get alerts if a car comes into the perimeter where these cameras are of a stolen car and other suspects and people that are wanted. They get an alert if the cops have the Flock System which they do. Also, for individual officers, you give them a vehicle description they can punch in that description, and they can pull it up and do an investigation at that time, at that scene right then and there in real time. If somebody is driving through and they commit a burglary or they do something stupid and they leave, it is not much of an apprehension tool right now. It can be if they are just driving through looking to commit a crime and they have warrants for them or something like that or if the car is stolen but it is more of an investigative tool to apprehend the suspect later.
Mr. Lohman: That was my point. Like I said cost versus what you are going to get for it versus somebody just driving through and you getting a ping on the vehicle. You actually have to tie that to a crime. Again how often is it going to be? I think the benefit for people like Newport is that when they are coming into the community they are coming into the community. They could be spending some time in there. Maybe they go in there

multiple times, who knows but like I said, I see the benefit there. I would think that at the entrances to all of the Estates and all those places would be the places where you would want it coming in and if you want it coming out that is one way or the other. I just think those are key points. I don’t know how coming off of Wiles onto Creekside does you a whole lot of good.
Mr. Morgan: If the guy comes into Turtle Run and he comes on Tortoise Way, and we get the tag on Tortoise Way, and he comes on 41st Street where I live, and we say it’s a red van, it came into Turtle Run. If they come into Turtle Run at one of the seven entrances that vehicle is going to be picked up at one of those seven or eight entrances. Then it comes onto my street and commits a crime, and I said it is a red van and the officer plugs it in, a red van with a Florida tag is going to come up on their system. That is how it works. If they come into the perimeter they are on video. In police work, the biggest thing is the outer perimeter and then there is an inner perimeter. We are trying to secure the outer perimeter where if they come into the perimeter we will know who they are.
Mr. Lohman: They are going to come through but what about the 100 that come through, I have had about five conversations with this guy. I have gone through all the scenarios and everything. For somebody just driving through, you knew that person drove through. That is going to get a ping on there. Do you think an officer, or somebody is going to respond to that? There has to be a crime already happening. Then they start like you said, you start using it for an investigation versus preventing something.
Mr. Morgan: Is the system perfect? No, it is not perfect. Mr. Pawelczyk: It is not going to prevent anything.
Mr. Lohman: We are going to put one in.
Mr. Carney: You are going to put one in at Newport?
Mr. Lohman: Yes because again I am looking at it as coming into my community. Mr.  Morgan:  You  already  have  tag  readers,  or  something  don’t  you?
Mr. Lohman: I have cameras, but I don’t have anything that is going to alert the police. I have all kinds of cameras. I have LPR cameras, but I don’t have the software for them. There has never been any software associated with it. At the time when we put the cameras in, the software for the LPR was $3,800 a year. This is nothing compared to that.

I can still use my cameras and do whatever. You will get a ping and the police, there is a chance they can catch them in my community especially if they come in more than once or twice which I can guarantee will happen.
Mr. Morgan: Clarence I have a suggestion for you. If you are real nice to the Board and you ask the Board, we have done a lot of things for a lot of communities, maybe this Board will consider putting one for you and adding one to your community.
Mr. Lohman: You would be putting it on private property.
Mr. Morgan: Exactly but as long as we have an agreement with you, an easement agreement with you we can do that. Absolutely. We put Christmas lights up for other developments. We put landscaping packages in for other developments. We can do a lot of things. That is what the Board is for.
Mr. Carney: Let me ask Mike a question. You have the CDD which obviously overlooks pretty much everything in Turtle Run. The Foundation Board overlooks Turtle Run. Is there a way of merging those two together to make this thing happen in a much bigger way than just doing seven? Blow it up and do like 18 and be funded by both entities? Is that a possibility?
Mr. Pawelczyk: Yes, that is fine. The CDD can’t put anything on private property. Mr. Carney: Can the Foundation?
Mr. Pawelczyk: No matter who puts it on there you are going to need an easement of some sort. The right-of-way is different because I think the City of Coral Springs isn’t the one that initially brought this to our attention. They want these cameras.
Mr. Carney: I am talking from a finance standpoint. I know the Foundation Board has quite a bit of money in the budget for law enforcement. Now do you need as much law enforcement when you have something like this? I don’t know.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Sure. Anybody can contribute to the CDD. The CDD cannot contribute to the Foundation unless it is for cameras that are on public land.
Mr. Morgan: A simpler way to be is to have the CDD do its part and if the Foundation wants to pick up and add to that. Have two separate things. When you start merging the government with a private corporation which the Foundation is, you are talking about two different animals there and trying to merge them. Have the Foundation do their part if they want to supplement with us when we do our part.

Mr. Carney: Maybe there is something to that.
Mr. Lohman: Keep in mind that the Foundation does pay for security in the community.
Mr. Carney: Right.
Mr. Morgan: It is something the Foundation Board can take up, but we should do our part for security.
Mr. Lohman: I am not talking for or against it.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Like Clarence I am not advocating one way or the other for this, but I was at a meeting in Port St. Lucie last week and a member of the Sheriff's Department was there that happened to live in the community, and he brought this to the attention of the Board, the Flock Security System and asked the Board to look into it. I told them to call Julio. I said there is a presentation at Turtle Run coming up soon. I know the police departments like Lance I think previously indicated are really pushing this because it is just an investigative tool to help them solve crimes and find people faster. I don’t know if there is a deterrent. I assume there are signs that are placed in this community are governed by Flock Security or something like that.
Mr. Morgan: I have never seen any signs.
Mr. Pawelczyk: So there is no real deterrent unless you have that signage. It is more of an after-the-fact way to solve things.
Mr. Lohman: Wiles Road I don’t know, I should have seen the community, but it is not Whispering Woods or whatever, it is but the next one down there is one right as you go into that community that has two signs on them saying surveillance or something like that. There are actually two of them when you come off of 441 and go onto Sample there are two of them right there.
Mr. Morgan: Signs aren’t mandated.
Mr. Lohman: I am not saying signs, I am talking about the cameras. The cameras stick out like a sore thumb.
Mr. Morgan: Signs are mandated, that is probably something the community does to deter rather than anything else.

Mr. Winfree: From a police standpoint, if you get the ping from Flock you don’t care who owns them, whether it is the Foundation or the CDD. You don’t care about anything like that.
Mr. Carney: Ok, let's move on.

SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Approval of the Minutes of the
May 20, 2024 Meeting
Mr. Carney: Approval of the minutes of the May 20, 2024 meeting. It is on your iPads. Can I have a motion to approve, please?

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Winfree with all in favor, the Minutes of the May 20, 2024 Meeting were approved.

EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Audit Selection Committee
Meeting
Opening Audit Selection Committee Meeting
Mr. Padilla: We need a motion to open the audit selection committee meeting.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Winfree with all in favor, the audit selection committee meeting was opened.

Roll Call
Mr. Padilla: Next item is the roll call. Eugene Skip Carney, Zaida Karnegis, Lance Morgan, Rob Shipe, and Barry Winfree.
Ranking of Respondents to RFP
Mr. Padilla: The next one is ranking of the respondents to the RFP. There is one respondent which is Grau & Associates. No one else responded. What the audit selection committee can do is just rank number one Grau & Associates being the only one.
Mr. Carney: We have had Grau for ten or fifteen years, correct? Mr. Padilla: We use them in many other communities.
Mr. Pawelczyk: The only other alternative is to put it out for bid again. Mr. Carney: My rating would be Grau at number one.
Mr. Padilla: If the committee selects Grau & Associates we would need a motion.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, Ranking of Respondents to the RFP with Grau & Associates ranked number one was approved.

Adjournment
Mr. Padilla: We need a motion to adjourn the audit selection committee meeting.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Winfree with all in favor, the audit selection committee meeting was adjourned.

NINTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Selection of Audit Firms
Mr. Padilla: Item #9 selection of audit firms.
Mr. Carney: We are selecting Grau & Associates as our audit firm. Do we need a motion for that?
Mr. Padilla: Yes.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, Grau & Associates selected as the audit firm was approved.

TENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Staff Reports
Attorney
Mr. Pawelczyk: I really don’t have anything to report myself. I will chime in; Julio has some things to report that I can assist with. Unless there is any questions for me.
Engineer – Update on Tortoise Way Retaining Wall
Mr. Geiger: In terms of the wall construction that has been completed per the approved and permitted plans. There is a small deviation to the drainpipe. Instead of running the drainpipe through the front of the wall in three locations per his proposal, he decided to run it parallel to the wall. The water is piped into that small catch basin on the side. This is to avoid dumping water on the residential sidewalk there. That was approved in the field at the preconstruction meeting. That was the only deviation.
Mr. Carney: So, you are saying it was completed according to the plans?

Mr. Geiger: Yes per the plans that the construction engineer drew up and were permitted by the city.
Mr. Carney: I think we have some questions though.
Mr. Geiger: I am aware of that. We can go through those. The only thing left now is for the site to be sodded and restored. I believe Patrick is working with BrightView on that. Sod was not part of their proposal or contract originally. I have furnished everything inspection-wise to them including the certification letter for the wall construction itself. They just need to submit that stuff to the city at their final inspection call. I am not sure if they are waiting for the site to get restored. A lot of times planning and zoning won’t final you out if they see dirt everywhere. I know there is still some material onsite as well. As of today, I haven’t seen anything scheduled. I had some punch list comments for him to address. I think the drainpipe needs to be cut back a little bit. I don’t know if you have been out there Pat but it kind of just slides out. I don’t know if the city is going to let that stick out like that or if they are going to ask them to miter it out. He hasn’t gotten back to me on that yet. There are a couple of cap blocks that have some cracks in them. They didn’t think they were detrimental but if there are ones that he can swap those out with I have asked him to address that as well. If you guys have questions.
Mr. Morgan: I was out there today, and I sent a picture to Julio but apparently it is not going through but at each end, it doesn’t appear in my opinion and what walls I have seen like this where there is no return to the wall, it is just stepped down to grade. There is no return on either side. A return is like either a 90 or 45-degree that cuts it back into where the high part of the dirt is. This is just exposed. I am just afraid somebody can grab a rock and pull on it or whatever it might be. Did you have a chance to look at that?
Mr. Geiger: Are you talking about the angle on the wings? Mr. Morgan: At the very end of each side.
Mr. Carney: The way it is stepped.
Mr. Morgan: All it does is step down and there is no return where it would be level and return. It is more of a 90-degree miter edge. Is that the finished product right there?
Mr. Geiger: That is the system. It is going to be stepped like that. The way the wall is constructed it is stepped up like that. You are thinking more of a smooth.
Mr. Morgan: A smooth 90-degree where it dies into the dirt itself.

Mr. Geiger: That is just not the way the wall was designed. It is not the way the existing wall was either.
Mr. Carney: What is keeping the hill from washing out?
Mr. Geiger: The structural calculations and soil barring capacity. I have stamped and approved structural engineering drawings. You have to remember this company specializes in this. I don’t think it was ever discussed with them that there was a desire to have it constructed that way.
Mr. Morgan: It wasn’t. I just saw it and I have seen mainly these walls in other places, and I have seen them have a return on them. It is a finished edge instead of an exposed edge.
Mr. Geiger: That is just the way these walls are constructed.
Mr. Morgan: I understand that I am just saying it doesn’t look finished to me and I think it would be more aesthetically appealing. It may be structurally ok to do it this way but aesthetically there is no return to it which would be basically like this. It would look like this. That is just the way I do things. I do things perfect.
Mr. Winfree: Are these like lockboxes?
Mr. Geiger: They are basically hollow blocks of pins and each level; they are not locked together at all.
Mr. Winfree: It is just pins through? Ok. Mr. Geiger: Yes.
Mr. Winfree: Jonathan what you are saying is if we sod the top and that side down that hill structurally it shouldn’t walk away. The only reason the wall is there is because it is too steep of a drop.
Mr. Geiger: The wall itself is designed for the conditions on the site. Once you put sod on top of that none of that soil is going anywhere.
Mr. Winfree: Off of either side. Mr. Geiger: Yes.
Mr. Winfree: It just looks raggedy so to speak.
Mr. Geiger: The whole reason that wall is there is because you are putting it back down to grade on an appropriate slope.

Mr. Morgan: You are saying the wall should be finished to wear kids can’t climb up the steps there. It is just going to be a square wall finished. Now you have where kids are going to climb up the steps or whoever might I don’t know. You are going to have grass on the other side and grass on this side. I just thought it would look aesthetically, it could be 100% engineered secure and all that stuff. I am not arguing that Jonathan. I am saying aesthetically I don’t appreciate the look of that as much as maybe a finished edge. That is all I am saying. I noticed that today. The first thing when I walked up I said, this thing is not finished.
Mr. Geiger: Would you like us to discuss with them to square it off? Make it a rectangle?
Mr. Morgan: Yes, can they square it off?
Mr. Geiger: Yes. It is going to look weird with the grade behind it not being level.
Mr. Winfree: Then you don’t have the structural integrity of the washout if you square off the end.
Mr. Geiger: Once sod is on there none of that is going to wash out.
Mr. Winfree: If you try to square that it is going to look even worse in my opinion.
Mr. Geiger: That is what I am saying because you are going to have to build the grade up and then you are just going to have a drop.
Mr. Morgan: When I saw that today it didn’t look finished to me.
Mr. Winfree: The only suggestion I can make is if you want that to come down on an even slope so to speak, you would have to mortar or cement that down like off of each edge right up to the top. Does that make sense?
Mr. Morgan: It is a big improvement. It just doesn’t look finished to me how the edges are exposed.
Mr. Winfree: I understand what you are saying.
Mr. Morgan: It is aesthetics, and I am not an engineer and am not familiar with these walls but if it had been something that I had seen in the plans which I didn’t know to look for that. I would have addressed that then but now it doesn’t look like it is finished to me. If that is what it is, that is what it is.
Mr. Szozda: I think once we get sod and grade it, it will be a little more appeasing
also.

Mr. Morgan: We can put some lipstick on that pig, you are absolutely right Pat.
Mr. Geiger: Realistically one person is probably going to see this wall which is the resident who doesn’t even live there anymore. I would say let's grade it and sod it and see how it looks. Like Barry, we can rectangle the sides out.
Mr. Winfree: I wouldn’t rectangle it, I would slope it with the slant of the wall.
Mr. Morgan: If you look at the top they put a finished brick on the whole top rail.
They can’t put finished bricks on top of these step-ups.
Mr. Geiger: Those are cap locks. Those are the finished cap locks. Mr. Shipe: Julio, can you pull up the picture that I sent you just now?
Mr. Morgan: It will be ok. I was just wondering about that aesthetically. How do the caps fit, and lock onto each other?
Mr. Geiger: Looking at this drawing I am not sure how the cap locks are actually attached to the top layer. I tried picking one up and couldn’t do it at all. They are attached on there somehow.
Mr. Winfree: Some kind of sealer.
Mr. Morgan: It does look a lot better than the railroad ties. That is the good news.
Mr. Winfree: Let’s finish the landscaping and look at it again and see what we decide.
Mr. Morgan: If you say there is no way of doing it, there is no way of doing it. Mr. Geiger: I am not sure there is no way of doing it.
Mr. Carney: What do you have Rob?
Mr. Shipe: The pipe that is sticking out there, does that have to be open to that
drain?
Mr. Geiger: That is something I emailed him about. I would prefer to see that cut
back and angled off and then sodded over. It also isn’t really attached. The part that is underground both myself and Pat were able to pull it out so that is something I did want to address to make that more aesthetically pleasing. I don’t think the city is going to be ok with that pipe just sticking out like that.
Mr. Winfree: I wouldn’t think so.
Mr. Geiger: That is on their punch list whether we have to go out into the field and go over that.

Mr. Carney: Are we in a good place now? Mr. Morgan: Yes.
Mr. Winfree: Let’s finish it and then take a look at it.
Mr. Geiger: Before we furnish any payments or pay an invoice, the city permit needs to be closed out. I believe Patrick said they submitted an invoice already. That is not getting paid until they close their permits unless they want to submit an application for a partial payment.
Mr. Carney: Ok Jonathan, anything else? Mr. Geiger: That is all I have.
Field Manager – Annual Maintenance Plan
Mr. Szozda: As far as the maintenance plan for June, basically it is almost the exact repetitive of May minus the Medjool palm fungus treatment which I will contact Rusty to make sure that gets done. The other item I have is we have the preserve, between the preserve and the Grove Apartments we want to address it. It is getting a little thinned out over there. Lance and I have walked it a few times. We got some plants we would like to get put in there. They are all native plants.
Mr. Carney: Where is this?
Mr. Szozda: The preserve area between the Grove and the preserve. It is just getting really thinned out. We have had some trees removed out of there. Everything we have to put in there is native to the preserve itself. All we are doing is we are not adding anything that is not growing already in the preserve. We just want to fill it in.
Mr. Carney: Every couple of years that thins out.
Mr. Winfree: Were there a few things that we were going to take out of the preserve
also?
Mr. Morgan: Except for the dead slash pines. Mr. Winfree: That is what I was asking.
Mr. Szozda: What it consists of is saw palmetto, wild coffee, and matcha ferns.
Then we will go ahead and fill it in. We do the pine straw every year anyway. Once we do this it should be set.
Mr. Carney: That is more of the same stuff that is there.
Mr. Winfree: We still have a few dead things in there to take out?

Mr. Szozda: It will be a complete cleanup when we do it. This should take it for years minus adding pine straw in there.
Mr. Morgan: If the Board remembers that needs to be filled with natural landscaping and stuff like that. Something has happened to the matcha fern over the years. It all died out. Now it is really thin so Pat and I saw this and we need to address it. It is supposed to be a preserve. Rusty said the reason the slash pine keeps dying in there is because you have the curbs on either side, and it is too moist in there for the slash pines to live. That is what Rusty told us. At one time we had him look at why the slash pines were dying. With all the slash pines being removed over the last year or two we find it necessary to re-address it and put some more plants in. Ivan, Pat, and I went out and walked it and this is what they came up with as far as what we need. It is a good start and maybe everything we need.
Mr. Winfree: Are you talking about doing the perimeter or all the way through like across?
Mr. Szozda: It is all the way through, staggered. Mr. Winfree: Ok.
Mr. Szozda: The cost estimate on that is $3,524.81 which is a little above my ability to approve.
Mr. Carney: We need a motion to approve.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, a proposal from BrightView in the amount of
$3,524.81 to fill the preserve area was approved.

Mr. Szozda: The only other thing I have briefly is regarding the painting. I have a tentative date of July 3 for the wall behind Ms. Rodriquez’s place.
Mr. Morgan: They are going to do all three houses, correct?
Mr. Szozda: Yes. They are going to do the whole stretch of the wall. Mr. Carney: We had a flag that came down a couple of days ago.
Mr. Szozda: Yes we had a cable break. Patrick already has it. We just have to wait for the flag company to replace it.
Mr. Carney: Anybody have anything for Pat? Ok.

Manager
Progress Report
Main Fountain Feature Propose Settlement from Anzco, Inc.
Mr. Padilla: I do have two updates. The trademark registration I am still working with the District attorney and have some questions for him after the meeting or tomorrow. The other item would be the main fountain repairs. I do have two updates on that. One of them is on the agenda. The other one is an email that was sent to the Board that I received from special counsel Matthew Fornaro. I forwarded that to the Board. If you haven’t had a chance to see it, just take a look at it and if you have any questions just reach out to special counsel. It has to do with a preselection meeting, pretrial.
Mr. Winfree: I have one question. I was looking at the progress report numbers 22 and 23, what does tabled mean?
Mr. Padilla: That means no further action was taken by the Board so we can bring it back any time he wants to.
Mr. Winfree: Are we going to review the capital projects improvement?
Mr. Carney: I have something I want to say to that. I think at the last meeting we talked about the wiring for the irrigation. I think we need to get three quotes for that. One can be BrightView, one can be Creative Solutions I think it is called and then we should find another person to give us three quotes on the wiring and electrical nodes. From what I am hearing that is our biggest problem out there. It is not so much broken pipes which we fix as we go but the problem is the battery-operated nodes that keep going out. We don’t know they are dead until the grass is dead. Everybody I spoke to tells us that is our number one problem out there. We need three quotes. I would like to move on it. I don’t want to keep talking about it. Irrigation is a big part of what we do.
Mr. Padilla: Do you want me to add that to the capital projects? Mr. Carney: It is already on the capital projects.
Mr. Padilla: I just don’t have the list with me.
Mr. Carney: We need to get three quotes. Creative Solutions sounds like a good one to me. BrightView of course they are our landscape company and then another one. Then we can make a decision. Once we find out who the person is who is going to put them in you could have one person doing landscaping and one person doing irrigation

depending on what kind of a contract you get and what kind of warranty you get with the program. You break that up a little bit. That is to talk about later.
Mr. Winfree: On the second page I guess it is number 46 where we say we now have 113 decorative street light poles. I have a question on this. This was completed in March. We just talked about that last month, and it wasn’t done but the real story is do we have that broken down by street? That was one of the things we were looking at for the insurance cost. How many poles do we actually have?
Mr. Geiger: We have an as-built that has all that information on it that I can send out again. It is not broken down by street, but it does every pole that is installed.
Mr. Winfree: That would be a good start. Mr. Geiger: I can get that to GMS.
Mr. Winfree: That is what I need, something like that.
Mr. Carney: Have you been in contact with the insurance company? Mr. Winfree: Yes like last September.
Mr. Carney: It’s been awhile.
Mr. Winfree: Once I have that I should be able to really start getting into it. Most of our costs is liability. We have very little that we actually own. This is probably the biggest cost right here. That is what I want to talk to them about.
Mr. Carney: Light poles and signs.
Mr. Winfree: Signs aren’t even on there, it is all light poles, and the rest is all liability.
Mr. Carney: Then we have the new signs to talk about. Mr. Winfree: That is all I have.
Mr. Shipe: Is it still open on the roundabout reflector lights? Did we close that out to do the repair or are we looking at how many were actually out there?
Mr. Szozda: I believe that has been approved and he is just waiting for a tentative date to get started I believe.
Mr. Shipe: Ok, thank you.
Mr. Pawelczyk: It was approved at the last meeting. I think we did the agreement and sent that off. I haven’t heard anything was finalized. I am sure it is in the works.

Mr. Winfree: Shouldn’t that have been an action item also? We were going to do some work on that. I think they already recorded everything when they went in and how they were going to come back, replacements.
Mr. Burgess: What he did do last year and then what is projected for this year? He will let us know if it is anything less than what he proposed when he goes out there.
Mr. Winfree: That is what we are looking for if I remember correctly at the last meeting is how do we track which ones we have replaced and whether they are still under warranty. No one seems to be able to explain that or track them yet.
Mr. Szozda: They should have a schematic.
Mr. Winfree: There ought to be a tracking process is what we said at the last meeting. I think we need a tracking process on that, so we don’t lose more money.
Mr. Carney: Anything else Barry? That is it.
Mr. Padilla: There is one more item. The next item is the main fountain feature proposed settlement from Anzco for $25,000. All the information was sent to each of the Board of Supervisors for review. It was requested to contact special counsel if there were any questions. We would need a motion to either accept or decline the proposed settlement from Anzco.
Mr. Carney: Has everybody had a chance to read that?
Mr. Padilla: We need a response tonight so we can provide that response to special counsel.
Mr. Carney: So someone needs to put a motion on the table to approve or not approve correct?
Mr. Padilla: Correct.
Mr. Pawelczyk: If you discuss it, it is public record. Mr. Carney: There is nothing to discuss.
Mr. Morgan: I make a motion we decline.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I just want to tell you what this means. Special counsel I think should have been here to do that or at least by phone. This is a proposal for settlement that is offered per statute typically in all forms of litigation. The reason you offer a settlement amount that is below reasonable is for purposes of setting up the other side for attorney’s fees or reductions in the judgment. Basically, if Anzco is found not to be

liable or the final amount determined by the court is I think within the 25% range of the settlement. If the court finds that it is $5,000 against Anzco then the District could be liable for attorney fees basically if you lose but under the contract, you are already liable for attorney fees, prevailing party attorney fees. That is a risk that you took when you decided to move forward with this. I just wanted to explain that. The other thing is if you do nothing the offer is basically rejected by law if you don’t respond within 30 days. I think what the special counsel wants I have interpreted from emails is he wants to be able to send that response in yes or no. That is why this is before you today. You can go ahead and vote now unless there are any questions for me.
Mr. Carney: Any questions for Mike?

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Winfree with all in favor, a motion to decline the proposed settlement in the amount of $25,000 from Anzco, Inc. was approved.

Mr. Pawelczyk: Julio will notify Matthew tomorrow. Just so you know the other item that Julio was referring to for those of you that don’t like to read legal documents that are sent to you is the trial period has been set for May of 2025. That could change but at least they got onto a calendar somewhere. I am sure Matthew and the other side will be gearing up or preparing for that. If you have any questions just ask him. I just copied and stuff just like you do.
Mr. Carney: Ok, thank you. Julio, what else do you have?
Mr. Padilla: Discussion of easement agreement to allow the District to move signs at current locations. Pat met with the city. Do you have more information on that?
Mr. Szozda: We did a ride with Aaron from Code Enforcement where we can attach or adhere to these signs. Basically he said technically we can’t put them on the medians, it is city property. We had to move the existing signs to the exterior of the property which is basically on the other side of the sidewalks.
Mr. Carney: That is our property between the lakes and the sidewalks.
Mr. Szozda: Basically as long as it is not on private property, anything that is a CDD-owned entity we can set the signs on it. I think we have a couple of decent locations.

Mr. Carney: That was the recommendation from Code Enforcement. A question was asked to me let’s say the Foundation Board wants to advertise their signs how would they do that putting it on CDD property? Ask for a request from the CDD to be able to display their signs for meetings, the same with the Estates?
Mr. Pawelczyk: I would guess so. That is up to the Board.
Mr. Carney: I know that. The Foundation Board would have to come to the CDD, or the Estates would have to come to the CDD to request permission.
Mr. Pawelczyk: But if they do that I would recommend that you have guidelines for them so that the signs don’t stay out there, and we are not incurring costs removing the signs.
Mr. Carney: Understood. I got it. The question did come up to me.
Mr. Pawelczyk: You could like a license agreement maybe giving that authority. Mr. Carney: Could do a simple license agreement to cover all amenities.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Or you could adopt a rule, but it would be easier to just do a license agreement, easier and cheaper to do it that way. We could just revoke it at any time, the CDD Board basically if they are not adhering to it.

ELEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Financial Reports
Financial Report on Capital Projects, Emergency Funds, Capital Reserve and All Other Financial Issues
Approval of Check Register
Acceptance of Unaudited Financials
Mr. Carney: I passed out the financial report. It is pretty much the status quo what we have been all along. The capital is $412,976. The city playground equipment has been removed from that. The playground should be moving. I talked with Lou this morning and it should be moving real soon. Like Lance said earlier he spoke to the city official. They will start working on the curbs and stuff now that they have the donation money coming in. It was just a slow walk. That is pretty much the number one in the community is when is this playset going to get done? I need approval of the check register.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Winfree with all in favor, the Check Register was approved.

Mr. Carney: Then you have a copy of the acceptance of unaudited financials because it is our basic budget year-to-date numbers. We don’t need to make a motion to that it is just so you know it is there.
TWELFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS    Supervisors Requests
Mr. Carney: Supervisor requests, Zaida do you have anything? Ms. Karnegis: No, sir.
Mr. Carney: Barry? Mr. Winfree: No.
Mr. Carney: Rob, what do you have?
Mr. Shipe: I wasn’t able to make it to the meeting. Julio, do you have a copy of the email from June 19 with the proposal on the signs?
Mr. Padilla: I will take a look.
Mr. Shipe: It was June 19th. We had a neighbor that was requesting some No Trespassing signs. I went out and walked the neighborhood in the area. It looks like we do it with about 10 or if we wanted to do 14 of the new signs at the sides of the lake signs. We could put Stop, Personal or Private Property beyond this point, No Trespassing to try to discourage the people if they were walking or fishing or doing something along the banks to keep them from going into people’s private property. There are some pictures in there, I see you have it up there now. The price is high. Those signs are expensive.
$49,000, that is for 14 signs. I think we could do it with ten. I think it is something we need to talk about. I think if we do put signs we want to keep with the standard of what the signs are in the neighborhood. I think if we just start putting them on wooden poles or something else it would be quite a distraction to those areas where the brick pavers and passive parks are. I think if we do want to spend the money we could actually make the signs, I don’t know really how much it will discourage people if they are going to do it. If they are going to do it they are going to do it anyway, but it may stop some casual people from walking by there. We had the one couple that came and complained. I don’t know how many other complaints we have had over the years of people walking through people’s backyards but anyway, I had some more pictures. It is just something to keep in the back of your mind and we will discuss it at a later meeting when I can show you more pictures. It is not a time-sensitive issue.

Mr. Morgan: Can you also make a map and show us where you are planning to put them in if we go forward with it so we can all know where they are going to go?
Mr. Shipe: I had that. I didn’t know Patrick wasn’t going to be there. I forwarded him the email that had some pictures. I do have that on a map but the one there option number one is nice without going overboard that it would let people know that you have come to the end of the public property do not go any further. When we discuss it again I have some pictures of where they would actually go. You can see where the Passive Park over by Walmart on that side where the sidewalk ends it basically goes right into people’s backyards. That may be where the people who you knew that came to the meeting, I don’t remember exactly where their property was but there are backyards not too far right off the Passive Park sidewalks that were put in.
Mr. Carney: Is that the same size as the signs that we had the lake's name? Mr. Shipe: Yes.
Mr. Carney: It is pretty big, don’t you think?
Mr. Shipe: They are but they would blend in. Again, it would be the same type of pole and the same type of sign. We can look at something a little different I just thought that since that was the standard that we had that is why I got that quote.
Mr. Burgess: The background to the turtle is white on the other signs but they sent it with brown for some reason but obviously that could be changed very easily.
Mr. Carney: Give us a layout of the locations so each Board member can look at where we plan on putting them. I think that would be a good starting point.
Mr. Winfree: Rob, you are saying you like number one versus number two is that what you are saying?
Mr. Shipe: Well, that is just something the lady that makes the signs was talking about. I think option one with the blue maintains that look of what is out there now. She had a few other options. You could put different backgrounds in that part if you wanted to have a picture in there as opposed to just the blue writing in there.
Mr. Winfree: Just opinion is the blue just looks like it is another lake sign whereas if you had the other one it kind of grabs your attention a little bit more. That is just my opinion. I kind of like the white with the background it kind of stands out a little bit more to me.

Mr. Shipe: Right. The thing that we need to think about is whether we really want to spend that much money on an issue like this. Next meeting when I am there I will have some better pictures and a map with the locations that I was thinking about.
Mr. Carney: Try and shoot the map out before the meeting so we have an opportunity to take a look at it.
Mr. Shipe: Ok.
Mr. Carney: Lance?
Mr. Morgan: A few things real quick. I just want to make sure all the Board members turned in Form 1. If anybody hasn’t please do it before July 1st. Pat, the Fourth of July this year is on a Thursday. Can we have all American flags at our three main poles on Monday? The whole week through next Monday by Walmart, Lowe’s, and the main entrance. The other thing is if the Board members noticed we put in some new hedge behind two residences by 41st Street. Ivan got some very good material, and it went in. They sodded and it looks very nice. I appreciate you Pat for doing that and making sure it was done really good. I couldn’t pick one plant that I disagree with. You did a good job. That is all I have thank you.
Mr. Winfree: Does it report back to you that everybody did their Form 1’s? Mr. Padilla: I will check with my office.
Mr. Winfree: If anyone hasn’t done it we might want to remind them before July 1st. Mr. Pawelczyk: Barry is good, Rob is good, Lance is good, Zaida is good.
Mr. Carney: How about Skip Carney?
Mr. Pawelczyk: You look at the website, but it is designed to look at on a desktop.
Skip is good. You are all good. Mr. Winfree: Never mind.
Mr. Pawelczyk: If you google the Florida Commission on Ethics financial disclosure you can search by organization, by name as to who filed.
Mr. Morgan: And the ethics training has to be done by December 31st. Mr. Pawelczyk: Yes, and then you will report that next year.
Mr. Carney: Thank you to everyone who came. We appreciate it very much. Please continue to show up. It is good. Now we need a motion to adjourn.

THIRTEENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Adjournment

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Winfree with all in favor, the meeting was adjourned.

Assistant Secretary/Secretary	Chairman/Vice Chairman