MINUTES OF MEETING TURTLE RUN
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT

A regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the Turtle Run Community Development District was held on Monday, May 22, 2023, at 6:00 p.m. at Coral Bay Recreation Center, 3101 South Bay Drive, Margate, Florida.

Present and constituting a quorum:
Skip Carney	Chairman
Zaida Karnegis	Vice Chairman
Lance Morgan	Assistant Secretary
Rob Shipe	Assistant Secretary
Barry Winfree	Assistant Secretary (via telecommunication) Also present were:
Julio Padilla	District Manager
Michael Pawelczyk	District Counsel
Jonathan Geiger	District Engineer
Patrick Burgess	Governmental Management Services
Pat Szozda	Governmental Management Services Several Residents

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS	Roll Call
Mr. Carney called the meeting to order, and Mr. Padilla called the roll.

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS	Moment of Silence
Mr. Carney led a moment of silence.

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS	Pledge of Allegiance
Mr. Carney led the Pledge of Allegiance.

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Good News
Mr. Carney: Good news. Does anyone have any good news? Lance? Mr. Morgan: The rainy season has started but no rain so far.
Mr. Carney: Rob?

Mr. Shipe: No.
Mr. Carney: Zaida? Ms. Karnegis: No.
Mr. Carney: Barry any good news?
Mr. Winfree: Having a good time. Other than that no.

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Public Comment
Mr. Carney: Public comment. We can go around the room. Mr. Riley, is there anything you would like to share with us tonight?
Mr. Riley: Good evening. This question is posed to the three HOA Board members for the Estates of Turtle Run. My question would be when are we going to have our election that was supposed to be held back on December 2022? Lance, I spoke to you in January, and you indicated that the election would be held in February. No word and no comment since then. Chris, I spoke to you at a CDD meeting here and I asked you about the election as well and when it was going to be commenced. You indicated we are busy. Between you three gentlemen, I would like to have that question answered.
Mr. Carney: Chris, do you have anything to say to that?
Mr. Kapish: I am at a CDD meeting. It is not a forum for that. Mr. Riley: Lance?
Mr. Morgan: I have nothing to say regarding that. This is a CDD meeting. I explained it to you in my text as far as I knew at the time. It will be soon, that is all I know.
Mr. Riley: It is part of every month’s duties as an HOA Board member to make sure that happens. I think you do our residents of our community a disservice by not following the constitution by-laws. That is my comment.
Mr. Morgan: Skip, do you have any updated information regarding the meeting? Mr. Carney: No I don’t. That is a good question. Clarence, do you have anything? Mr. Lohman: No.
Mr. Carney: Debbie? Ms. Devlin: No.
Mr. Carney: Jim?

Mr. Ford: I am a little concerned, it seems like we had new sod that was laid in some of the parkways, and it seems like it is burning up already. I don’t see the sprinklers going off in a timely fashion like they used to. If they are, a lot of them are just emptying out into the streets. I also noticed the fountain is as close to pea soup as you can probably get. It has been like that for a couple of weeks now. I think as residents we invested too much money into this to let it fall to the wayside.
Mr. Szozda: I was out there working with Dwight with the irrigation today, specifically Turtle Run Boulevard, the areas that are under distress. I think we have all the sprinkler issues worked out. I spoke with BrightView. They replaced that sod in the one bad area about a week and a half ago but due to the irrigation not functioning correctly it burnt out. He is going to replace it for nothing. As far as the fountain goes, we are treating the fountain. It is in need of repainting, and we have proposals to do that. We met with Hall Fountains also. There was a problem with the spider gasket in the pumping system which was not allowing the chemicals to be retained in the fountain along with the paint being gone. Once we get everything rectified the fountain should be back in order. It has to be pressure-cleaned and acid washed. We have proposals on the table tonight. We will discuss that later.
Mr. Ford: If we can get an update on the other entrance off of Sample Road where we are at?
Mr. Carney: It is on the agenda tonight.
Mr. Ford: We have spent so much money and we are just not getting our value.
Mr. Carney: There is an attorney on that and that does take some time. Anything else Jim?
Mr. Ford: No.
Mr. Carney: Chris?
Mr. Kapish: I am going to pick up with what you said, Jim. You talked about the fountain at the main entrance and that has not worked since it was built and finished and that was over two years ago. In the last six months, I brought it to the point where we had an attorney on it. We had a contractor who actually was writing a report for it. I don’t know why there isn’t a priority on that. It is a million and a half dollars, and it is sitting there rotting. Right now there is water in it, and it is not clean. It is dirty. There shouldn’t be any

water in there at all because all it is doing is leaking out of the side of the fountain weakening the structure. By ignoring the problem what we are actually doing is throwing away a million and a half dollar asset that the CDD has. It baffles me to no end why it has been ignored for all this time and nobody is doing anything about it. If you want to answer that I have a question.
Mr. Carney: Pat, do you want to talk about your meeting with the expert out there? Mr. Szozda: We had a meeting last week with a gentleman and he photographed extensively what was going on in there. According to him, there were many issues. To just empty the water out is a possibility but you really don’t want to do anything that would be detrimental to the structure and have that come back to bite you. Until we get some legal clarification I don’t know that it would be wise to move on anything else in there. I
think that was his opinion too.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I think it is safe to say that special counsel is working with this expert who he recommended, and we are going to rely on him to give us recommendations in respect to that fountain. Isn’t that correct?
Mr. Padilla: That is correct.
Mr. Szozda: He was out there for quite a while and took a lot of pictures. Mr. Pawelczyk: We are waiting on the report on that as far as I know.
Mr. Kapish: Well who is this gentleman that you met with? Mr. Szozda: He didn’t have cards.
Mr. Burgess: It was just their field inspector that takes the pictures, provides the pictures, and writes the report. He said he is going to forward it to the appropriate people.
Mr. Carney: He was recommended by the attorney.
Mr. Pawelczyk: There is a contract with the consultant that was approved several meetings ago.
Mr. Kapish: Why is it taking this long to get to this process? That thing has been done over two years ago and we are still talking about having somebody photograph it and everything else. That report was supposed to be done six months ago.
Mr. Pawelczyk: It couldn’t be done six months ago because the attorney’s consultant wouldn’t provide the proposal timely and did not enter into the agreement timely. We were waiting on him the whole time for whatever reason, that is why.

Mr. Kapish: So where are we at?
Mr. Carney: We are waiting on getting the engineer’s report back. The attorney is waiting for the engineer’s report so we can move forward on a case.
Mr. Kapish: And what are we doing?
Ms. Karnegis: We are waiting for the engineer’s report.
Mr. Shipe: We have answered your question you can move on, or you can ask a separate question, but we are moving on from the fountain issue.
Mr. Kapish: I am not finished with it.
Mr. Shipe: Well, that is what I said, we are not going to speak to the fountain anymore. If you would like to enter a question go ahead, but we have answered your questions on the fountain and we are not going to proceed on it anymore.
Mr. Carney: It is in legal counsel, we can’t be discussing that at this meeting. Mr. Kapish: You are not suing anybody, so you don’t have a case.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I will just remind the Board that the public comment section is for comments. The Board does entertain questions, but it is really about comments, and it is up to individual Board members to either address those comments or those questions, that is up to the Board. That is what your policy is just to move the meeting along.
Mr. Carney: Do you have anything else?
Mr. Kapish: Yes I do. I sent a bunch of pictures and an email to Julio this morning and basically, I guess Julio, you emailed me back saying that somehow you weren’t allowed to put those pictures up on a screen. If I can read the email back you said “Hello Chris. Pat and Patrick are on top of your concerns regarding the roundabout fountain. They can reply to you with more information however, we cannot place your pictures or pass along at tonight’s Board meeting since it is not on the agenda. The Chairman would also need to approve what is on the agenda from residents. You may bring it up under public comment.” Is that true?
Mr. Padilla: That is what I emailed you, yes that is correct.
Mr. Kapish: I was the Chairman for a long time, we had a guy with a fruit tree that was on the easement which was being removed because it was in the middle of the fence. They brought pictures of the tree, and I didn’t stop them from showing it. This is a public

meeting. I think the people of Turtle Run who pay the taxes have a right to see these pictures.
Mr. Shipe: Julio, his comments are addressed to the Board. You work for us. You don’t need to reply to members of the public.
Mr. Padilla: Ok sir.
Mr. Shipe: If you have a question for the Board or a statement.
Mr. Kapish: I forwarded the email, and I am asking a question. You are telling me that you are not going to put the pictures up?
Mr. Pawelczyk: Julio, I would suggest you forward the email that Chris sent you to the Board members, then at the next meeting it is up to a Board member to bring that up and put it on the agenda if he wants to unless a Board member wants to address it now.
Mr. Padilla: I will take direction from the Board.
Mr. Kapish: Is there no Board member that wants the pictures up? Why would you not? It doesn’t make any sense.
Mr. Carney: Let me say one thing. Pat has got it under control with the company. That it is. There is no more discussion. Why do you want to bring up something that is old news?
Mr. Kapish: The pool is green as it was two weeks ago. If you look at the tile you didn’t mention anything about the tile, but the pool needs to be redone. It is over twelve years old. When we talk about painting the pool that is fine and dandy, but if you see the tile and I don’t understand why are we doing that Mr. Kapish was inaudible at this time. Look how awful that looks. That isn’t from six weeks ago or six months ago, this is a long time. I don’t understand why there seems to be a need to suppress information. You talk about transparency. It seems to me we are all about non-transparency. We have money to buy ourselves new iPads. We have money to have a copier all this time, but we don’t have any money to maintain the community. Maintaining the community was a big thing.
Mr. Carney: Anything else?
Mr. Kapish: I am not finished. Since all that was said, people can’t bank on it. I don’t think you want to take away from renters’ votes or something like that. I don’t understand. It doesn’t seem like a community board.
Mr. Carney: Mike, is there a Roberts rule of three minutes?

Mr. Pawelczyk: It is not Robert’s Rules, it is the public comment policy that this Board adopted in 2005.
Mr. Carney: You have already exceeded your three-minute time limit. Mr. Kapish: Ok. Skip, there is no reason to do that.
Ms. Karnegis: Chris, we follow rules. That is something that the Board is doing.
Mr. Kapish and Ms. Karnegis were talking at the same time at this point.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Like I said, if Julio can send that to the other Board members and then one of them can bring it up at another meeting if they choose to. If you sent it today that is not supposed to go on the agenda because the agendas are posted a week in advance. We try not to typically add new things to the agenda unless a Board is going to bring that to the attention of the rest of the Board.
Mr. Kapish: This is not an agenda item because the agenda is put out by you guys and these people here who live in Turtle Run don’t get an email and an agenda from anybody. They come in here and they want to speak to you guys because you guys work for us the taxpayers because you are collecting $200 every meeting including Barry.
Ms. Karnegis: I think we need to move on. That applies the same thing for the HOA. When somebody asked you questions about it and you have to go ahead and move on, follow the rules so, I believe we need to go on and not keep everyone with the same questions that you already received a response to so let’s move on.

SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Approval of the Minutes of the
April 24, 2023 Meeting
Mr. Carney: Can we have the approval of the minutes of the April 24, 2023 meeting?

On MOTION by Ms. Karnegis seconded by Mr. Shipe with all in favor, the Minutes of the April 24, 2023 Meeting were approved.

SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Authorization Required to Open
Money Market Accounts with BankUnited
Mr. Carney: Authorization required to open money market accounts with BankUnited.
Mr. Padilla: At the current time the Board directed our accountant to look into putting our money into a money market account. BankUnited is currently earning 4.5%. You have heard pretty much her statement that was passed out to the Board in an email. What is needed in order to do that, BankUnited needs a copy of the minutes from this meeting where the Board states the signers on the account and their titles on record. For this instance Patti Powers is the Treasurer and Rich Hans is the Secretary. Once that is done we can move forward opening the money market account.
Mr. Carney: When will that take place?
Mr. Padilla: We will probably have to wait till the next meeting and then we should move forward with it. We probably need a motion Mike to confirm that?
Mr. Pawelczyk: You could do that or a just a motion to approve the authorization required to open a money market account. You should have done a resolution. If you had done a resolution, you wouldn’t have to wait for minutes. I didn’t know what this was.
Mr. Padilla: According to Jennifer this is specifically what they requested.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I know they are doing this for some other Districts just so the Board understands. I would recommend if you were going to approve this I think you already approved it at the last meeting actually so maybe those other minutes coupled with this approval would be enough for them to open the account now. You can try. A motion to accept the authorization required to open the money market account with BankUnited as presented in the agenda package of May 22, 2023.

On MOTION by Ms. Karnegis seconded by Mr. Morgan with all in favor, Authorization required to open the money market account with BankUnited as presented in the agenda package of May 22, 2023 was approved.

Mr. Pawelczyk: For the record as Julio indicated, that authorization does reference Patti Powers as the District Treasurer and Rich Hans as the District Secretary.

EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Consideration of:
A.	Resolution #2023-03 Approving the Proposed Fiscal Year 2024 Budget and Setting the Public Hearing
Mr. Carney: Consideration of Resolution #2023-03 Approving the Proposed Fiscal Year 2024 Budget and Setting the Public Hearing. This is just for setting the public hearing?
Mr. Pawelczyk: You are setting a cap on your assessment level. At the public hearing, you can lower it, but you can’t raise it.
Mr. Carney: What do we do at this point?
Mr. Pawelczyk: I will let Julio present the budget to you as the District manager or whomever from GMS is doing that and then your job would be to approve the proposed budget and set the public hearing date.
Mr. Carney: I spoke with Jennifer, and she said she could be on the next meeting Zoom call if we want an explanation of the budget. Maybe everyone can take this back and have an opportunity to review it and at the next meeting, we can ask questions. Jennifer can be on Zoom. Is that fair?
Mr. Shipe: Do we have any input on any of these items?
Mr. Pawelczyk: Before you even ask that question there is no increase proposed so I don’t know why you wait unless you as Board members are thinking about an increase. If you are thinking about an increase on any of these items or adding things, then I would recommend doing it at the next meeting, but we do have to approve a proposed budget by June 15th which is why I think it is on this agenda. If you are not proposing an increase you can approve the proposed budget. To answer Rob’s question you can always move items around or move money around. You are really setting a cap on the assessment level which is the same assessment you have from last year. That is really what you are doing here. If you have questions regarding individual line items you can have those questions answered by the manager. I would try to do it before the next meeting so they can bring back a revised proposed budget or at least options that the Board would want to consider. You can change this proposed budget up until and through the public hearing till you adopt the final budget. You just can’t change that maximum assessment.

Ms. Karnegis: So we can just make a motion to accept the resolution?
Mr. Pawelczyk: Before we approve the resolution we need to pick the hearing date. Mr. Padilla: Which would be at least 60 days from today.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I assume you would want to do it here even though you are not increasing the assessment.
Mr. Padilla: That is July 31st the last Monday of the month. You can set a date of July 31st at 6:00 p.m. at Coral Bay Recreation Center, 3101 South Bay Drive, Margate, Florida, 33063.
Mr. Pawelczyk: If the Board does choose to adopt this proposed budget as presented by the manager you can still discuss it at the next meeting. Put it on the agenda in case there are other questions up till the public hearing if you wanted to do that.
Mr. Carney: Ok.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Since we have multiple people here from the public which we are not used to having all the time, just a reminder that under that public comment policy if anyone in the public has any questions regarding a particular item that we are going to vote on, just raise your hand and see if you can get one of the Board members to acknowledge you so we can take your comments before the vote.
Mr. Carney: Do we want to make a motion?
Mr. Pawelczyk: It would be a motion to adopt Resolution #2023-03 which approves the District’s proposed budget and sets a public hearing thereon for July 31st at 6:00 p.m. here at the Coral Bay Clubhouse at the address Julio provided moments ago.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Shipe with all in favor, Resolution #2023-03 Approving the Proposed Fiscal Year 2024 Budget and Setting the Public Hearing date as July 31, 2023, at 6:00 p.m. at 3101 South Bay Drive, Margate, Florida, 33063 was approved.

Mr. Pawelczyk: Also just while I am speaking in favor of the public here, this proposed budget will be published on the District’s website by the end of this week.
B.	Ninth Amendment to Agreement for Landscape Maintenance Services with BrightView Landscape Services, Inc. f/k/a ValleyCrest Landscape Maintenance, Inc.
A.	

Mr. Carney: The Ninth Amendment Agreement for Landscape Maintenance Services with BrightView Landscape Services, Inc., Julio? Is this that hurricane amendment?
Mr. Padilla: Yes it is. It was something that was discussed at the last meeting. It is something that is done yearly. In case there is an emergency it allows BrightView to come in and do a cleanup to make sure all the roads are clear and so on as stated in the agreement. We will need a motion to accept the amendment.
Mr. Carney: So, you are telling us this is outside the normal scope of work?
Mr. Pawelczyk: Correct. There is no charge unless you have a severe storm event, and we have to implicate that, so they provide you with pricing ahead of time which is in the hurricane price list. I think we really need to have that in advance for the limited opportunity we have for FEMA reimbursement but also that prevents some price gauging. I think one of the things this Board implemented years ago was that they wanted to make sure they got BrightView into Turtle Run as soon as possible after the storm. That is what this does.
Mr. Carney: Ok so we need a motion for that?
Mr. Pawelczyk: A motion to authorize the execution of the Ninth Amendment to Landscape Maintenance Services with BrightView.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, a motion to authorize execution of the Ninth Amendment to Landscape Maintenance Services with BrightView was approved.

C.	Amendment for Centurion Agreement to Change Warranty from 5 years to 10 Years
Mr. Carney: Pat, do you want to speak about that?
Mr. Szozda: Yes, basically before they completed the project we approached John about extending the warranty and he felt confident enough to move it from 5 to 10 years. He agreed to it. I think now we just need to wrap up the paperwork on it.
Mr. Carney: How long have they been in business?
Mr. Szozda: For like 30 years. His initial was 5 years and he offered to extend it to 10 years.

Mr. Morgan: Oh the caps. Mr. Szozda: Yes.
Mr. Pawelczyk: We would recommend approval.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Shipe with all in favor, the Amendment for Centurion Agreement to change warranty from 5 years to 10 years was approved.

NINTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Discussion	of	iPad	Usage	to
Eliminate Hard Copy Agenda Books
Mr. Padilla: Since the Board currently has iPads for meetings, normally I am still doing books, so we are looking for direction from the Board to eliminate the books going forward and save some money and paper.
Mr. Morgan: That was the idea originally when we got the iPads ten years ago. I thought we discontinued the books at that time. You still might make up one or two of them for office use or whatever.
Mr. Padilla: We usually have three of them at every meeting but just to discontinue them all if there is no objection from the Board.
Mr. Pawelczyk: If any members of the public want a copy of the entire agenda package, they can make a request to management. One of the reasons they don’t post it online all the time and they don’t do this is all their Districts and a lot of my Districts don’t do it because of the ADA accessibility. If we have pictures and all that it makes it difficult. I guess ADA is supposed to make things open to everybody but because of some of the rules and the difficulty of converting PDF documents to accessible documents for those that are blind, it kind of suppresses a little bit of the public record. This way we make sure we comply with Florida Law but at the same time if any members of the public want it, just make a request, and even if they want one that has been converted to ADA accessibility, management has to do that.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, a motion to discontinue the use of hard-cover agenda books unless requested by a member of the public was approved.

Mr. Carney: I think we should still have the first two pages of the agenda available for the public to see. Run off about ten copies, that way if someone wants to ask what the agenda items are we have something to offer them. Not more than the first two pages.
Mr. Padilla: We can have the entire agenda page available.
Mr. Pawelczyk: They also can access it on their phone at TurtleRunCDD.com.

Updated	on	Turtle	Run	
Boulevard	and	Sample	Road	

TENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Main Feature Fountains
Mr. Carney: Update on Turtle Run Boulevard and Sample Road main entrance feature fountains. Anything more you want to say about that?
Mr. Szozda: Other than we had the expert out to take photographs that is where we are until we get some legal guidance on how to move forward.
Mr. Carney: I was out there with you, and I have seen these leak experts go through there and this guy was thorough.
Mr. Szozda: Very much so.
Mr. Carney: I am hoping something good comes out of it. Mr. Morgan: He is going to prepare a report?
Mr. Carney: Yes. He was thorough. He mentioned spaces in the block and other things that nobody else had seen.
Mr. Morgan: We didn’t get his name? Mr. Carney: I have his name.
Mr. Morgan: Ok.

ELEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Staff Reports
A.	Attorney
Mr. Pawelczyk: I don’t have anything further than what was discussed or will be discussed unless the Board has any questions for me.
B.	Engineer
A.	

1)	Updates on:
a.	Cypress Pointe Flagpole Improvements
b.	No U-Turn Signpost Replacements
Mr. Geiger: I have some good news for Lance. We did get our building approved for the flagpole so as of right now we are waiting for the electrical permit to go through. There is a hiccup in the owner information they provided. 3D Paving, the contact I have was out of town over the weekend. I think he got back today so I will contact him tomorrow and see if we can give the flagpole set and run with getting the flagpoles over to the District. I spoke to the electrician about the light fixture. He said that the supplier has it on hold for him so it should be available whenever we are ready to put the light fixture in. We did get the permit fees back already. The contractor paid them. My estimate originally was based on the last time we did the flagpole project. It was a little high, so the permit fee actually came out to be $233.55 for the structural. So some reason it was like $1,000 last time. The new total running cost of the project is $45,980.85. Savings were a little bit more than anticipated earlier. The next step with this is getting the electrical permits and setting up a pre-construction meeting.
Mr. Carney: This has been about a year and a half. Mr. Geiger: It has taken a bit.
Mr. Carney: It took us two years to get our signs out of design.
Mr. Geiger: Hopefully it is smooth sailing once we get the electrical permit. The only thing they have said so far was the owner’s information was incorrect. We will get that corrected. Moving onto the No U-turn signpost replacement project. I am currently in plan production with that. I got the majority of it done today. I am going to try to have it done by the end of this week if not early next week. From there, we have to get a contractor on board basically. The last meeting I presented proposals for both material and labor. If Horsepower is going to write through Lightworks, I thought their pricing was a little high, so I reached out to Anzco. He is willing to do it for $700 a sign. The total we had from Lightworks before including installation was $31,402 with the installation part being $8,400. Anzco has a proposal for $4,900 and I asked Lightworks for a revised material proposal, so the original material cost was $23,002 so with Anzco’s $4,900 for the installation it comes to a total of $27,902. It would be a $3,500 saving for the District to consider authorizing Anzco to do the installation.  He did the Estates and the

roundabout. He is familiar with the site. It is seven signs. It is not a whole bunch of work. They are all the same type of sign. They are all in the medians away from the irrigation which we ran into problems with before. This should be a pretty small and easy job to get done. We do have two different proposals for the Board to consider. I am not sure at what point you want to approve anything. Speaking of Lightworks about the signposts, there is a 20-to-26-week lead time on these right now due to production issues. In the past Mainnor has been reluctant to place an order until we have gotten city approval because the last time around we ended up with extra sign poles and things that were not working out based on the city changing things or not allowing us to do certain things. With this project, it is all the same type of signpost, so I don’t see it being a big issue, but he is still very hesitant about placing an order until we have approval from the city. I don’t know if the Board would like to wait till we have some sort of indication from the City before we authorize anything.
Mr. Carney: How long is it going to take?
Mr. Geiger: For approvals? If I get the plans done I can shoot them over to engineering myself. I know the city engineer well enough. Actual permit approval could take a month or two depending. I am confident that they are not going to make us amend the license agreement. I read through it and it kind of does read that we can install decorative signs on the roadways. There is an exhibit attached which was the old plans. Permitting approval could take a little bit depending on when we get it in and of course to even submit it you are going to need the contractor.
Mr. Carney: If we move to approve tonight, the price is locked in?
Mr. Geiger: I don’t think Anzco’s price will go up at all. I didn’t speak with Mainnor. This quote is good for 30 days it says but if you approve it now and I can speak with him about getting the material ordered after I speak with the city engineer. Like I said it is seven signs all the same. I can’t see what they could possibly come back with comment- wise or deny.
Mr. Carney: Lance, do you have anything to say on that?
Mr. Morgan: Jonathan, what do you think the best way to proceed is?
Mr. Geiger: I know the Board likes to get things done a little faster than they tend to happen, but the 20 to 26 weeks concern me with getting this done anytime soon over

at the City first to make sure that they have no issues. I will not be here at the next meeting, but I can definitely place it on the agenda to get approved. I will make sure all the information is there. I will try to get the City on board before then.
Mr. Carney: Do your due diligence first.
Mr. Geiger: I will hold off on this for now. I will reach out to Mainnor and let him know we are just waiting for the City to give us an indication. Hopefully, this price doesn’t change. He gets his pricing from the company that makes the signposts. I will keep on top of that.
Mr. Carney: Do you have anything else?
Mr. Geiger: The only other thing that has come up in the last two weeks the electrician that has been doing all the work in Turtle Run contacted me about separating the meters for the FPL streetlights. He is dealing with FPL right now as far as he has let me know but he wants me to get whatever field team I have out there because we are pretty sure that to slip the meters off and install new meters the City is going to need electrical engineering drawings. In the past, we have provided that service so if we do have to get an electrical engineer involved I have the information and it is not a game of telephone between Patrick and Pat and everything. I know that this is something that the Board has been working on trying to get the light separated and everything.
Mr. Carney: So you are going to be able to get an electrical engineer, what is the cost to that?
Mr. Geiger: I am not sure how FPL is going to handle this. I just know from what he told me they are going to have to install their own meters next to the existing or they are going to have to split off somehow.
Mr. Carney: The only way we will get reimbursed from the City is Mr. Carney was inaudible at this time.
Mr. Geiger: Either me or Patrick, I know he has been dealing with them as well on this issue.
C.	Field Manager
1)	Quality Site Assessment with BrightView Landscaping
Mr. Szozda: Basically we have some dead trees, pine trees in what we deem the preserve which is that area on Turtle Run Boulevard that is a wooded area. There is a gumbo limbo by the east pumping station that we need to have removed also. It is causing

havoc on the irrigation, and it is dying. We have already approved that but that is the end of the quality assessment. I do have other items. We have the tree sylvesters on Sample Road that I got a quote from BrightView for. We tried to get the City to take these trees. They wanted us to foot the bill, which according to Will has been between $8,000 and
$12,000 to try to move them for the City which doesn’t seem reasonable. We have a quote that requires a permit to remove the three trees and stumps for $1,500. That way we can initialize revamping of those monuments. Also getting to the fountain we have a proposal from Allbrite Pools which is a local company. They have been in business for 30 years to pressure clean, acid wash, grind if necessary, and repaint the interior of the fountain for
$4,500.
Mr. Carney: What did they say about the tiles?
Mr. Szozda: The tiles regardless if you put in new tiles or leave the existing tiles every three months there is going to be film just because there are chemicals and the evaporation. Everything that goes into that fountain adds to a film on the tile. He said you can replace the tiles but in three months they are going to look like the old tiles. He just recommends whoever takes over the contract do cleaning as part of the contract. We haven’t addressed that issue yet. He said basically for $2,000 they could put in new tiles, but it would be basically a waste because you are going to get the same results that are on there now.
Mr. Morgan: So Pat these tiles are not savable?
Mr. Szozda: No they are. He recommended not to do anything with them. He can clean those. As part of this contract, he will clean them too.
Mr. Shipe: Just calcium?
Mr. Szozda: Calcium because it is chlorinated. There is a lot that adds to that film
there.
Mr. Carney: One guy recommended putting a chlorine tub down there, so it has a
total and constant infusion of bleach.
Mr. Szozda: Yes he did. That was the recommendation from Allbrite, but we are going to approach Hall Fountains regarding that. They are the experts on the fountains. Just thinking out loud I would have thought that would be an initial installment when they

did it if it was necessitated. Let me ask them and follow up on that and see if it is necessitated or if they think it is a waste.
Mr. Morgan: Julio, do you have pictures that Mr. Kapish took of the fountain? Mr. Padilla: Yes.
Mr. Morgan: Can you put them on the board for me? If you can pull them up I want to make a couple of statements.
Mr. Padilla: I am not able to do it, but Patrick will be able to.
Mr. Morgan: The roundabout fountain is not something that just happened. It has been over a year probably almost two years now. I know you and I have been out there before Skip in reference to polishing the tile. We had the guy that we thought could polish and clean them. Things kind of fell by the wayside, whatever has happened has happened, but this is where we are at right now with the fountain. It is not your fault Pat.
Mr. Szozda: I am not taking it.
Mr. Morgan: You are the property manager now and it has only really been about the last two months that we have zoomed in on this thing. I understand that the pool guy Luis I think that was his name quit or something like that.
Mr. Szozda: He just walked away and didn’t notify anybody.
Mr. Morgan: We didn’t know about that, and this thing got green. This isn’t just the last couple of months. I am not trying to blame anybody, it has been like this for a while. My point is Pat we can never have this ever looking like this again.
Mr. Szozda: Understood.
Mr. Morgan: And I am not blaming you. On the outside of the fountain, I don’t know what that is.
Mr. Szozda: It is calcium and lime that is caused by water leaching from the interior of the fountain through the concrete.
Mr. Morgan: We know we have this problem. We have to talk to an expert and find out what we can do about that to clean that. We do have a porter who is here 40 hours a week. If it is wire brush with some CRC or some of these types of sprays that they make that eat this stuff up.
Mr. Szozda: I tried that. In fact, I got the wire brush from you and limited success.

Mr. Morgan: Maybe we research this. We do have an engineer here. We have some other smart people in the room that might know something about this. I personally don’t. Maybe we can remedy this when Santos who is a wonderful guy, when he sees this he can go ahead and hit these once or twice a month or every other month or whenever he sees one pop out.
Mr. Szozda: The basis is you have to have the fountain sealed first.
Mr. Morgan: We are going to do the maintenance. The water is clear, that is a big improvement. I understand because of the wall cement as it was explained to me that the chlorine just gets eaten up in the air and with the water movement and stuff it is very hard to maintain this water feature. I get that. My point is that the first photograph with the tile and it has been like this for a while, going forward we can’t have this look like this again.
Mr. Szozda: Understood.
Mr. Morgan: Residents have been complaining and it is some of our finest work and for it to be this deplorable after ten years is not acceptable.
Mr. Szozda: I agree. I am on your side.
Mr. Morgan: So we understand each other on that? Mr. Szozda: Absolutely.
Mr. Morgan: Now on the outside we had that pressure cleaned and sealed a while

back?

Mr. Carney: A light sandblast at one time. Mr. Morgan: Was it sealed?
Mr. Carney: I think it was sealed. Because there is no pool paint left on the inside

it is coming through. He is going to reseal it.
Mr. Morgan: He is going to reseal it with what? Mr. Szozda: Pool paint.
Mr. Morgan: The invoice I am looking at doesn’t describe it.
Mr. Szozda: I made them get this invoice out pretty quick. We met with him Thursday. I will make him detail everything on it.
Mr. Morgan: Right, I would like more details telling me exactly what we are getting for $4,500.

Mr. Szozda: Exactly we told him we were having a Board meeting and he got it out Friday. I can get a more descriptive one.
Mr. Morgan: The material he is going to use to seal the fountain I need to know what it is, and what the warranty is.
Mr. Szozda: I will get all the details and make sure it is a more thorough invoice. Mr. Morgan: Do you have anything to say Mr. Kapish?
Mr. Kapish: I don’t understand why don’t we get three quotes like we used to do for all projects so that way you can get more information and more comparison instead of getting one quote from one company.
Mr. Morgan: Ok thank you. Have you talked to any other pool vendors or people that do this type of thing?
Mr. Szozda: No he was local, and he was experienced. We have contacted a few companies but not everybody deals with this. He was able to get out Thursday, so we met with him Thursday. We can follow up with additional companies.
Mr. Morgan: I am just wondering about the material he is going to use for the inside of the fountain. Do we have any information as to what we should use? Is there anything recommended? Have you talked to any other experts? You guys were out in the field the other day talking to a fountain guy, did we ask him?
Mr. Szozda: He was more there for structural reasons. Mr. Morgan: He could be a plethora of information for us. Mr. Szozda: He could be.
Mr. Morgan: I have no problem with this quote. I just want to make sure we nip this in the bud and maybe in a year or two this Board is not going to be fighting with the same issue again. I pass by it three or four times a week on foot.
Mr. Szozda: We will talk to more companies. It has been kind of a struggle because most of your pool companies specialize in that Diamond Brite and that is not what we are looking at. We will reach out to more companies. He was local. He was able to get here right away.
Mr. Morgan: Here is the problem, you reach out to more companies, and you get some more information that is putting this two more weeks behind.

Mr. Szozda: Just briefly he stated where he was getting the paint from would be four weeks out anyway. He wasn’t going to be able to do it for four to six weeks anyway. Mr. Morgan: He won’t order the materials until we decide. If we wait two more weeks and it is still four to six weeks out, we are in a Catch-22. We might as well have a
pool guy go in there and clean as best he can, drain it, and polish the tile.
Mr. Szozda: The reason we haven’t drained so far is the feature is still functional. The tile looks bad. If you want to drain it, we can drain it but that means you are looking at a two-month down time.
Mr. Morgan: The pool guy that you hired, you told me today that you hired a guy for $25 a week.
Mr. Szozda: He is just putting chemicals in there.
Mr. Morgan: Can he for an additional fee maybe go in there and clean it for us? If we can clean the tile that is half the battle.
Mr. Szozda: We weren’t getting into the tiles, but the tiles are another issue. We can get someone to clean the tiles, that is not an issue.
Mr. Morgan: What you are telling me is we are six to eight weeks from resolving this if not more.
Mr. Szozda: Correct.
Mr. Morgan: And if we wait two more weeks and then order materials.
Mr. Carney:  Also, you want to consider Mr. Carney was inaudible at this time.
How much did he charge for new tiles?
Mr. Szozda: He wanted $2,000 to tile that.
Mr. Carney: Then re-tile it. Take that into consideration.
Mr. Padilla: In the past we actually had someone come out and try to clean the tiles and polish them. It just didn’t work. They did a few of them before we got into an agreement.
Mr. Morgan: If we can keep the water halfway clean, we may want to do a total renovation of this where we replace tiles. If the tiles are never coming back, it is twelve years old. Is there any other application that we can use inside the pool? You said we are not a candidate for Diamond Brite.

Mr. Szozda: There is too much structure in there for the Diamond Brite. It would be a disaster. You have the interior jets, the exterior jets, and the lights in there, the Diamond Brite just would not work. Everybody I talk to said the same thing. It is just not a good option for that fountain.
Mr. Carney: He said it wouldn’t hold up any longer than pool paint.
Mr. Morgan: The front entrance is on its own time frame based on lawyers and courts I get that, but this here is something that I think we could move on in a fairly quick way. I am not an expert in the area to know more about it.
Mr. Carney was inaudible at this time.
Mr. Szozda: Absolutely.
Mr. Shipe: More bids for painting with the option of tile replacement on both bids.
Mr. Morgan: Find out exactly what the best material is. Maybe we can talk to some people or do some research. Patrick graduated from West Virginia University is a lot smarter than me. He probably knows how to use Google a lot better than me too. Can we find out this information Patrick? Alright. Let’s get this done and once we get it ready maybe we move forward as quickly as possible. I don’t know if we can get it done before the Fourth of July. It would be nice to, but I doubt that.
Ms. Karnegis: So, moving forward Pat maybe we can go ahead and look to see but we shouldn’t be waiting for somebody to give us a call back because we understand with contractors and small projects they are not willing to jump on it. So, if we continue to wait we will go with this one and we will look at the tiles to get them replaced so we can start with something fresh too.
Mr. Szozda: That is fine.
Mr. Pawelczyk: The Board can move forward and appoint one of you to work with Pat to really pull the trigger on this on a not to exceed amount if you wanted to. Have Lance work with Pat to pick out the tile and do that if you want to change the tile. If you have a not to exceed then you can give that authority and not have to wait, or we meet in two weeks too. It is up to you. I just wanted to throw that out there.
Mr. Morgan: I have to agree that I think retiling, removing this tile and retiling would be a good move. This tile is never coming back and moving forward I do think that even if the pool guy said the new tile will be destroyed within a few years if we keep better care

of it from this point on it will last us a lot longer than a few years, but we are going to have to stay on top of it. That would kick it up another $2,000 so about $6,500.
Mr. Carney was inaudible at this time.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Frankly that is a big problem when you have someone clean your own pool. They park the truck there and then they throw their chemicals in, and they leave. They are done in ten minutes even though under their contract they are supposed to brush the tile and brush the pool, right? But they never do it. Julio and Patrick have this problem in all of our communities. Unless they watch that pool guy, he doesn’t do what he is supposed to do, and our agreement says to clean the tile.
Mr. Morgan: Maybe we can also have whoever does this for us take care of the outside as far as removing those calcium deposits or whatever.
Mr. Szozda: I think once we get the interior sealed then we can probably sandblast. The worst-case scenario it would take that off there. I think it will be minimized once the interior is sealed.
Mr. Morgan: I don’t want to delay this anymore. I will volunteer to be the point guy on this if you would like. Skip you can or Rob can or whatever.
Mr. Szozda: It is a starting point, so we have some kind of general idea of what we are looking for. If we get a not to exceed, I get two more proposals and they are in the same range, we can probably move a little quicker on this.
Mr. Carney: Thanks for bringing this to the meeting. I have no problem with Lance being the point person.
Mr. Morgan: Do we want to do a not to exceed $7,000? Mr. Carney: Are you ok with that?
Ms. Karnegis: Yes.
Mr. Morgan: Give us a little wiggle room. We can always come back to the Board. I have no problem using Allbrite Pools if you want to give him the contract. I will supervise and Pat will make sure the job is done right. This way to wait for two more proposals I agree with that but time is of the essence right now. He met with the guy. Did you feel comfortable with this guy?
Mr. Szozda: Yes, I did.
Mr. Carney: He did my pool three months ago and it is nice.

Mr. Morgan: Ok well that is a good reference. I would say I would make a motion not to exceed $7,000 for Allbrite Pools. We will still do some due diligence as far as what type he uses to seal the pool but not to exceed $7,000. We can still look into some other companies but not to exceed $7,000 and maybe Allbrite will eventually get the contract. We will look into a couple of companies and decide which way to go.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, a not to exceed amount of $7,000 to clean, paint, seal, and tile the roundabout fountain was approved.

2)	Renewal of Annual Maintenance Services Contract with Solitude Lake Management
3)	Quote #28063 for Target Fountain Center Jet Repairs with Hall Fountain Incorporated
Mr. Szozda: We already approved the monument tear outs so I would like to get a consensus on maybe moving forward with the installation. This is for Wiles Road only, the trinettes and we were putting in croton magnificent. We are not putting in the trees though. That would be Sample Road that we are looking at there. Basically, we are looking at the trinettes with the crotons in there minus the robellini. So basically simplistic, trinette in the background, flowers in the front. We are going to shorten the bed with sod. That would be it for Wiles Road.
Mr. Carney: What is that called under the Turtle Run sign? Mr. Szozda: Those are trinette. It is a variety of arborcola.
Mr. Carney: We have some of them somewhere now, don’t we? Mr. Szozda: Yes.
Mr. Morgan: Hidden Lake just put them in on both sides of his wall. There are a couple of locations in Turtle Run they are at.
Mr. Szozda: Those flowers he put in pretty heavy there, they probably will never get that big. It would just be a trinette with a croton background with flowers in the front.
Mr. Carney: And that would be for two locations?
Mr. Szozda: The four locations on Wiles Road. You have two for Creekside and two for Tortoise. There are just not really places for trees in those specific areas.

Mr. Morgan: We can always Skip put in the trinette, put in the crotons and then reexamine it. If you want to come back with robellini or a palm tree on either side to give a boost up.
Mr. Szozda: I think that is a good idea. Once you put the trinettes you will get the backdrop and if you feel like there is an addition we can make that decision, otherwise we would just shorten the bed with sod and put flowers in.
Mr. Morgan: A few of the walls we are talking about maybe need some trees behind it to make a backdrop. There is nothing behind the walls at all. Some of them have a backdrop of trees the other ones just have air back there. There is nothing there, so we were thinking about maybe a couple of maples.
Mr. Szozda: I think those are the ones on Sample across from Wendy’s where there is nothing but the apartments and tennis courts which is a bad look. It would look really good there.
Mr. Morgan: Do we have a price for this to approve this?
Mr. Szozda: No because we had different variations so what I am looking for is an ok to go with this and then we will get pricing on it. It is not going to be a tremendous amount of money. This should be a low level as far as the installation of that goes. We will get a price on one and if it works, they are all going to be mimicked.
Mr. Morgan: I am a big fan of the trinette. I am not a big fan of crotons. I think the copper leaf is a better choice. Crotons a lot of times get leggy so does the copper leaf.
Mr. Carney: How does the copper leaf look freestanding? I know it looks good bushed up.
Mr. Morgan: If you go to Barry’s entrance you can see there is one of those in front of each column.
Mr. Carney: I think I agree with that. Crotons get leggy, and they get old.
Mr. Szozda: So basically, you are saying you would want the copper leaf in front of basically the columns. We can do that. If we get a view of it, we can always make adjustments but that would give us a great starting point. I can get a price with that and move forward. If we want to make adjustments, we can make adjustments.
Mr. Carney: I think we are good, I like it. Anybody else have any comments? Mr. Shipe: Did we approve landscape money, a not to exceed price?

Mr. Szozda: No because we didn’t decide which ones we were going to do. The rip-outs have already been decided. All that money has been approved so all we need is installation at this point with an agreement if this is the direction we want to take.
Mr. Carney: From the time we approve it how long will it take for installation?
Mr. Szozda: I would think like two weeks by the time they rip out. They will come in and do all the rip-out and then come back and do the installation. Once they get started it is probably a two or three-day project.
Mr. Carney: How would you like to proceed?
Mr. Szozda: I would like approval of at least the rendition, that way I can get a price and we will make a decision from there on.
Mr. Carney: You got that by consensus I think right? Mr. Szozda: This is just Wiles Road strictly.
Mr. Morgan: The good news is there is landscaping in front of all the walls and if we do Wiles Road, those four locations we can make adjustments if we want to change things.
Mr. Carney: What else do you have?
Mr. Szozda: You have the renditions for the Estates. The renditions we are looking at here probably won’t work in Lance’s area. Lance’s area is smaller than the rendition that he puts up for Skip’s entrance. I think what we are looking at here would be more for Skip’s entrance and then we can make a later decision on Lance’s entrance – 41st. I forgot what Skip’s street is over there.
Mr. Carney: 65th.
Mr. Burgess: Everything that he sent to us was on the last agenda. They are having issues with us opening them so he said he would provide that to us, but we don’t have them.
Mr. Szozda: You didn’t get that? Ok. We will table that.
Mr. Burgess: Solitude is asking for an increase in their lake maintenance contract.
That came to us recently and we want to get it approved so we can continue services.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I am baffled by the whole thing. This document here we don’t even need. We prepared an amendment to just change the compensation. After I confirmed are you sure you want me to prepare an amendment to change the compensation a $1?

Mr. Burgess: I talked to Solitude, and he said he doesn’t deal with that part of Solitude. He said to speak to the inside sales manager and talk to him.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Motion to approve the amendment I think that is all you need. Mr. Carney: We need a motion to approve the amendment with Solitude.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Shipe with all in favor, a motion to approve the amendment to the Solitude Lake Management agreement was approved.

Mr. Szozda: Patrick you also have Hall Fountains.
Mr. Burgess: Hall Fountain came out and did their yearly fountain cleanings. The Target fountain in the center stream is in need of a new pump. It was installed in 2018. You should have the proposal in your packet, but it is $8,521.43.
Mr. Carney was inaudible at this time.
Mr. Shipe: What is the life cycle on these pumps normally?
Mr. Burgess: He said 5 ½ years is how long the one by the roundabout lasted. He said that is great for the expectancy for how much those pumps run. He said five years is great.
Mr. Carney: What type of warranty do we have on the pumps? Mr. Burgess: One-year manufacturer warranty.
Mr. Carney: One year warranty and they said it would last as long as five. Mr. Burgess: That is typically the lifespan.
Mr. Morgan: Which one is this? The Target lake? Mr. Burgess: Yes, the center stream.
Mr. Morgan: What size is that pump? Mr. Burgess: It is 25 horsepower.
Mr. Shipe: So, with the five-year life cycle on these pumps, do we have it in the budget?
Mr. Carney: This will come out of the capital. Mr. Shipe: So, the money is there?
Mr. Carney: Yes. We need a motion to approve.

On MOTION by Ms. Karnegis seconded by Mr. Shipe with all in favor, Quote #28063 in the amount of $8,521.43 with Hall Fountains for Target Fountain Center Jet Repairs was approved.

Mr. Carney: What else do you have? Mr. Szozda: I think that is a wrap.
Mr. Burgess: I don’t have anything else.
Mr. Shipe: Just a question. You guys were out in the field looking at replacing the Estates entrances. When you guys were out there, there was a worker in there doing some electrical work or something.
Mr. Szozda: I was notified that there was an electrical worker working on the Estates where we tore out the landscaping in the easement area which is deemed CDD. I had a conversation with him and asked him what he was doing. A very nice gentleman. I told him, I said we can’t have you working on CDD property. He contacted his boss. I spoke with his boss. I believe it was Charlie, a very nice gentleman, very professional, very polite and I just said there is liability involved here and we just can’t have you doing work on CDD property without CDD authorization. He basically agreed and decided to move on.
Mr. Shipe: It is not an FPL issue or some other project going on that we don’t know
about.
Mr. Szozda: No, he was strictly on the lighting associated with the easement there
with landscaping.
Mr. Carney: Who was he working for?
Mr. Szozda: He mentioned Chris Kapish who authorized him to do the work.
Mr. Carney: The other side of it is we will not have our electrician out there to look at the electric plus the irrigation that they will replace, correct?
Mr. Szozda: Correct. Again, it falls back into the liability. If somebody else is working on our property and they get injured, somebody else gets injured without our authorization I think Mike can relate that would be a problem.

D.	Manager – Letter Sent to Estates at Turtle Run HOA, Inc.
A.	

Mr. Carney: We have the manager, Julio, do you want to speak to that?
Mr. Padilla: Yes. We were requested to send a letter to the Estates and Mr.
Chairman wanted us to put it back on the agenda for discussion.
Mr. Carney: Anybody have any comments about the letter that was sent to the Estates?
Ms. Karnegis: The letter that was sent really talks about landscaping. It is the main topic of this letter, correct?
Mr. Padilla: It also says any other areas not just landscaping. It says District property and landscaping.
Ms. Karnegis: I just want to make sure that we have all the areas covered so he doesn’t come back to say well you never said this area.
Mr. Pawelczyk: We don’t need a letter to tell people or require people not to dig up our stuff or remove our landscaping within our easement or within the Coral Springs right- of-way that we are required to maintain. The purpose of the letter is really what the Board required at the last meeting or a few meetings ago, I think. Hopefully if they have any questions or they have concerns about an area that they want to work in they will call Julio and say I need to go in this area, is it ok? That is what the purpose of the letter to just put them on a reminder.
Ms. Karnegis: Notice.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I think they are already on notice. They know it is not theirs but the CDD’s. If they are going to do work on the CDD easement or within the Coral Springs right-of-way that the CDD is required to maintain by agreement, they need to make sure they run it through the CDD.
Mr. Shipe: Did we get acknowledgement that was received? Mr. Padilla: We received a return receipt.
Mr. Shipe: The only thing I see it was sent c/o Benchmark. I don’t think we need to resend it but just for future references we should probably send it to the law firm that attends to the Estates of Turtle Run and not Benchmark. I think it should go to the law firm as opposed to Benchmark.
Mr. Padilla: We did as the Board requested us to do, which is send it to Benchmark.
We will keep that in mind next time.

TWELFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Financial Reports
A.	Financial Report on Capital Projects, Emergency Funds, Capital Reserve and All Other Financial Issues
B.	Approval of Check Register
C.	Balance Sheet and Income Statement
Mr. Carney: Financial reports, the only thing that changed is Mr. Carney was inaudible at this time, Signarama has been paid so the capital line items still remain the same. Really nothing to discuss there. We need approval of the check register.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, the Check Register was approved.

Mr. Carney: Balance sheet and income statement, a motion to approve.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, the Balance Sheet and Income Statement were approved.

THIRTEENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Supervisors Requests
Mr. Carney: Supervisor requests, Zaida anything? Ms. Karnegis: Nothing.
Mr. Carney: Rob?
Mr.  Shipe:  Are  the  sidewalks  CDD  or  is  it  the  City’s  responsibility?
Mr. Morgan: The City owns them however we do clean them because we have a maintenance agreement with them. We clean them every October I think.
Mr. Shipe: So, any alterations to the sidewalks would have to go through the City? Mr. Morgan: What type of alterations are you talking about?
Mr. Geiger: The City normally takes care of the cracked roads and sidewalks unless we have a project with a license agreement where we wanted to take care of it. The District has taken care of broken stuff like that before. It is a tough question. I know that even in areas that we have license agreements I do believe the City is still footing the bill for the repairs where the District has traditionally pressure washed, cleaned, and

poured new but only when we are doing projects in the area. I don’t think we have ever been involved with just doing any sidewalk alterations.
Mr. Shipe: Ok but if there is a sidewalk in a CDD area that was going to be worked on and it wasn’t the City, it would have to be approved by the CDD?
Mr. Geiger: It should be approved by the City because it is in their right-of-way. Any alterations to the sidewalks there should be a permit associated with it unless the City is doing it themselves.
Mr. Shipe: Ok.
Mr. Morgan: Are there sidewalks that are in disrepair?
Mr. Shipe: I am under the impression that there are some sidewalks that are going to be torn up and replaced with the District. Not by us.
Mr. Geiger: That would be through the City normally. Anzco is who they normally get to do a lot of the sidewalk work.
Mr. Morgan: There are sidewalks at the main entrance on the east side of the road that we repaired by Anzco. There are probably four or five slabs broken. We did repair those.
Mr. Pawelczyk: We were required to.
Mr. Morgan: Are you talking about some other sidewalks that we need to know about?
Mr. Shipe: We will see, I don’t know. I am just trying to find out any information about what is required.
Mr. Morgan: The only sidewalks that I know of in Turtle Run is around the Boulevard on Sample Road. Our community in the Estates does not have sidewalks. Barry, does your community have sidewalks? I don’t believe so.
Mr. Winfree: They do not.
Mr. Morgan: Newport I do not believe they have sidewalks. Harbor Island doesn’t.
Some of the apartment complexes have sidewalks.
Mr. Carney: Anything else Rob?
Mr. Shipe: The company that we had the change on for the ponds, are they like algae? Is that what they do?
Mr. Burgess: Yes.

Mr. Shipe: It is starting to build up a little bit. Mr. Burgess: Yes, I noticed that today.
Mr. Morgan: They are out there once a month?
Mr. Szozda: Once a month. A lot of it is lack of rain and heat too contributors and we have had no rain and plenty of heat. In fact, they should be out there anytime now.
Mr. Morgan: One other thing if you are talking about sidewalks in Passive Park those are brick paver sidewalks, we own those.
Mr. Carney: Anything else Rob? Mr. Shipe: No.
Mr. Carney: Lance?
Mr. Morgan: Just a couple of things. Pat, I came home tonight about 4:00. I don’t know when the rainy season is going to kick but we have to make sure this is the critical time there are some hot spots in Turtle Run and we like to make sure these get covered. Mr. Szozda: I was out there working with them today. I think I went over every bit
of it.
Mr. Morgan: If we don’t get rain in the next couple of days those hot spots are
going to have to be replaced. Get that taken care of with him. My other question is maybe Skip might know this, around the roundabout at nighttime or maybe Jonathan can address this there are a lot of lights that are still out. What are we doing about that? I remember we talked about this recently. Have you guys, Pat or Patrick been out there at night?
Mr. Szozda: Yes, he has the numbers on it, and he actually has a proposal from

Lux.

Mr. Burgess: Lux went out there based on my report. Mr. Morgan: When?
Mr. Burgess: It was within a week ago. I made that map that I did to try and keep

track of everything. They went out to reverify and pulled the lights to make sure that they were under warranty. I am being told that they are not under warranty so the proposal that they are getting to us is about $17,000 to replace new lights that are either fully out, or only missing one of the three LED lights. I have to clarify that with them, but he gave me a proposal for $17,000.

Mr. Morgan: That is going to be a very important issue for the Board because the City allowed us about five years ago maybe to put those lights in that type of lighting and reduce the signage there by about 20 or 30 signs if you remember. There were signs everywhere. There appeared to be quite a few of them out. Did you have the numbers on that?
Mr. Burgess: There were 66 that are needing to be replaced. Like I said, either one of the three lights are out, or two of the three lights are out or all three of them are out.
Mr. Morgan: Do you know what the total number of lights that we have is? Mr. Burgess: I can find out.
Mr. Morgan: If there are a thousand lights in there, 66 is not a lot.
Mr. Szozda: I think is about half. I think it was about 128 to 132 I believe we came
up.
Mr. Morgan: So, 66 out of 132 that is a big number, so we are going to have to
move on that.
Mr. Carney: Half of them are completely burnt out. There is still sufficient lighting out there, correct?
Mr. Burgess: I am going to have to go back out there and walk around. I have been waiting on Lux. He said that the new lights are approved for what we have and that they are lasting a lot longer at some properties. I will go out there and verify how many lights have one out or two out. It is a task.
Mr. Morgan: Can we have the information by the next meeting? Mr. Burgess: I will try my best. I will be on vacation.
Mr. Morgan: You have a two-man team here. Mr. Burgess: I can try.
Ms. Karnegis: Can you also find out the lifetime because there is a difference between the new ones?
Mr. Morgan: What is the warranty on it?
Mr. Szozda: On the initial installation I believe it was a two-year warranty on the initial. I think we are in year three.
Mr. Morgan: We’ll start working on that and get some information for our next meeting so we can get this resolved. That is all I have.

Mr. Carney: I have one thing. I need all the Board members to pipe in on this. I got a call from the City Manager’s office there will be a meeting, a Turtle Run Development meeting, on Wednesday, June 7th at 3:30 p.m. to discuss the Turtle Run Park. Catherine Givens and Dale Pazdra, Deputy City Managers are going to attend along with Parks Director, Rob Hunter, Lou Goldstein, myself, Melissa from the school, Chris Kapish and Karen Combroth. We are going to discuss Turtle Run Park. I will be representing the CDD per your request. I would like to hear from each of you as to what you would be willing to do in the park that would be of benefit to the Turtle Run taxpayers. If we could open that up for discussion now. I have my opinion as to what we would probably do. We have a lot of homeowners that came through here and said that the children needed a nice playset no question about that. I think we all agree on that. We want something that is upscale. Work on that. That is expensive but we can probably get a grant on that.
Mr. Morgan: I don’t really think that the City does grants.
Mr. Carney: They won’t do it but what they will do is they will give us the $120,000 for the playset and then we can upgrade it. That is what they will do. We already know that. My question to the Board members is what are you looking for in this meeting so I can have something to say what the Board members are looking at. Just FYI I spoke to a friend of mine that did some stuff at these Miracle Fields through high school students and what I was told just saying that we are not only going to get Coral Springs here the entire South Florida will come here because once you get these fields you are going to get a lot of foot traffic. That was just someone that told me that. I wanted to share that with the Board.
Mr. Morgan: Let me ask you a question, in your conversations are they willing to separate the two issues? The Miracle Field being one issue and upgrading our park or us chipping in to get a better park is another issue?
Mr. Carney: I don’t think Mr. Carney was inaudible at this time. That is what feedback we need from you guys. Tell me what are we willing to do?
Mr. Morgan: Obviously in my opinion we want an upgraded park for our community. My kids are grown. I do have grandchildren six and eight and I have brought them up there before. An upgraded park with play gym equipment, swings, and maybe a playhouse like they have there now, these are the types of things I am looking for. An

upgraded pavilion or a new pavilion because that one is 15 or 20 years old and shot. The concessions if the City is willing to make to us, the only one I think they are going to be willing to make is having our park not be rented out on the weekends. For whatever reason and however, they would do it that our park is not a rented park. The pavilion cannot be rented on the weekends. The reason for that is most families work 9 to 5 Monday through Friday and on Saturday and Sunday there are parties in the pavilion, and they can’t get on there. People a lot of times that rent this are not even residents of Coral Springs. That would be the only concession I am looking for. I don’t think the City would give us much more unless anybody has a better idea. We can always ask.
Mr. Carney: I think some of the issues that we have is a couple of the parks he said is 1,200 and that 1,200 area is fenced in with a gate. Now I don’t know why law enforcement when school is letting out can’t disallow 16-year-olds running up and down these play sets?
Mr. Morgan: I can speak for law enforcement. You have a school that is 6, 7, and 8th graders. It is hard to distinguish who is who in that age group. Sixth graders are 12 years old and some of the kids look like they should be in college. I understand but to think that the cops are going to say you and you out in this time and age. We can’t dictate what Coral Springs PD does. The City can set the agenda, but nobody wants it to come back to them that their 13 or 14-year-old who lives in a different section of town and happens to go to our school opens a can of worms.
Mr. Carney: Coral Springs has that presence there every day. They are there to stop any shenanigans.
Mr. Morgan: They stop fighting but if you think they are going and say you, you, and you look like you are 12 or 13 and older, you are out, it is hard.
Mr. Carney: I am not going to go there with a list of things, but I want to hear what they have to say about us. If the money that we are investing doesn’t directly affect our taxpayers in some sort of way we shouldn’t just throw money at something.
Mr. Morgan: I agree. I think there are two separate issues, the Miracle Field that may never come but the park is due to be upgraded as of last year. If they are going to give us $120,000 for a park and we can add something to that and make it something a

lot better for our residents. If the Miracle Field comes, you said last time it is four to six years away.
Mr. Carney: I want to say it could take as long as ten years.
Mr. Morgan: That is ten years, that means a kid that is 8 years old will be graduating high school in ten years if that is the worst-case scenario.
Mr. Carney: That is what he told me.
Mr. Morgan: I think it is two separate issues. Regardless of if we get the Miracle Field or not, I think upgrading our park is a smart thing for our residents.
Ms. Karnegis: I think we need to see what Coral Springs has. It is hard for me to give ideas that we want this and this because in reality we can go ahead and request things like Lance is saying just for the homeowners to be using on the weekends. The reality it is a public park no matter what we are going to go in there and put on our wish list it is a public park where the whole of Coral Springs is paying towards it. I cannot see the City coming in and saying oh we are going to allow Turtle Run residents to use this. That is money for them, so our wish list may be cut. I think when we put things like that I don’t see how the City is going to go with that, but we do want to do something for our homeowners. I think it is best just to wait and see what the City is going to do. Then go with what we think will be reasonable. It is a public park.
Mr. Morgan: Skip needs to be able to at least speak for the Board somewhat as far as we are willing to put, and I am just throwing a number on here $100,000 in to upgrade the play gym and the play equipment. That may not be the number. I am just throwing that out there right now to let the City know that we are interested in being in the mix in trying to upgrade our park.
Mr. Carney: We are interested in investing money where there is a benefit to our taxpayers is the bottom line. We are not interested if someone just said how much money do you want to donate to the cause, we are not interested in that.
Mr. Morgan: Right.
Mr. Carney: Am I saying that right?
Mr. Pawelczyk: Remember that we had a discussion I am just kind of bringing this up with the City regarding the park years ago. One of the things the City said is they can’t make, and it happened when we talked about upgrading the roadways and stuff with the

cameras. They can’t make Turtle Run Park better than a similar park in Coral Springs. My question would be if they are allocating a half-million-dollar Turtle Run Park, are they allocating a half million dollars to another park or are we on a schedule? Your question should be I think you want to make sure that whatever the District’s spends is on top of what the City should be spending.
Mr. Morgan: The way the Parks Direction explained it to me they are willing to spend anywhere from $85,000 to maybe $115,000 for what he classifies as a neighborhood park which is a downgrade from our park because it is a neighborhood park because all the parks have to be about the same, you are right about that. If we wanted to add some skin in the game, I don’t know what that is going to be $50,000 or $100,000 they would be willing to spend that $85,000 to maybe $100,000 and if we wanted to upgrade from there we could. If the District wants to spend another $50,000, we can have six swings instead of two swings, maybe a seesaw, and so on. That would be above what they are doing. Right now, they are willing to spend about $85,000 to $100,000 maybe a little bit more for the playground.
Mr. Carney: They don’t do rubber mats, they do wood chips. Mr. Morgan: They don’t do sunshades.
Ms. Karnegis: The last time that this was done with the City and upgraded the park the CDD put money towards it right?
Mr. Carney: Yes.
Mr. Morgan: I think we got a grant. Chris, do you know about that?
Mr. Kapish: The playset and the cover was given by power-of-attorney as a grant. The CDD spent very little money in the park period. The only thing that they did was put the fence around it which is now a molding-stained fence.
Mr. Morgan: The fence cost about $40,000 if I recall something around that neighborhood.
Mr. Pawelczyk: We just entered an Adopt-a-Park agreement which included the fence and I think a pathway or something like that.
Mr. Kapish: A lot of those things the CDD asked for and they got from the City. They got the basketball court, they got the volleyball court and now the discussion is with the City right now and the school is to make the park bigger, the park that the residents

use, and shrink the field. The Miracle Field, which would cost $1,500,000 would probably change the park’s designation from just a neighborhood park to a special park because the City Manager, it is his project that he wants to bring in. I think all the problems that you are talking about with kids hanging out and destroying the park probably will all be taken care of because they don’t want a Miracle Field torn up.
Mr. Morgan: I agree with you, but I still think it is two separate issues. I think it is the Miracle Field and what is best for our community and what it is going to cost obviously.
Ms. Karnegis: The reason I was asking about this is sometimes we might have a view of what we would like but in the end, the end result is going to be the same thing as now. It may not change. We may have the most beautiful park and still have the same results because what is happening is the better the park you have the more people are going to come over. Just like they said we go to Coconut Creek. When you go to those parks, and I know the Fireman’s Park they are packed. The residents may not even be able to enjoy what we are trying for them to do. Now you have everybody coming over.
Mr. Morgan: The City is willing to put $100,000 to just redo our playground equipment, you lose the canvas which I am not a big fan of the canvas anyway, and the rubber mat. It would just be simple playground equipment, a couple of swings, and a couple of simple things.
Mr. Kapish: They won’t do rubber mats because basically the liability of it. Kids get hurt on those. That is why they don’t use them.
Mr. Morgan: What I am looking at is when you go through there all those brick pavers, they are old. They are 15 years old. The only thing that is really salvageable is our concrete rail fence around the park. All the playground equipment is destroyed. It has been destroyed for a lot of years. Even if you spend $50,000 to $100,000 ballpark numbers of what are looking to do, we are not upgrading that equipment much.
Mr. Shipe: I know it is probably not part of the park perse but the push about the cooperation with the School Board to improve the tennis courts.
Mr. Carney: Right, that is going to be part of the discussion.
Mr. Morgan: Mike sent an article I think I sent it to you or somebody. Did you send it to Skip?
Mr. Pawelczyk: I think I just sent it just to you.

Mr. Morgan: About the pickleball courts. Mr. Morgan was inaudible at this time.
Mr. Carney: We should request the same time.
Mr. Morgan: The City found some money for those pickleball courts.
Mr. Carney: That would be a good investment for us, I think. That is something that people would use.
Mr. Shipe: The only other thing I would say is if they could, we have the money and we know what is going to go in there but change the setup of the park. I think if they have the pavilion upfront and push the play equipment further away, we know the kids are going to come in there after school and be on there as they are waiting to get picked up. If the play equipment was further away from the street maybe it wouldn’t be abused quite as much.
Mr. Carney: I think if you start moving completely that gets expensive.
Mr. Morgan: Also, to Chris’s point if they built the Miracle Field it fits where it is at and it would be moved north like 40 yards which would increase that grey area for our park for the kids to use. It is going to be a much smaller field than what it is now. That could be a benefit.
Mr. Shipe: It is like a soccer field or softball field?
Mr. Morgan: If you go the baseball diamond it is a monster field right now. They would close those fences in and make a Miracle Field, a much smaller field which would increase the green space.
Mr. Shipe: So, the Miracle Field is a baseball field? Mr. Morgan: Yes.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Miracle Fields are typically set up so they can use them for both.
There is a line multi-sport.
Mr. Kapish: You don’t have to be disabled to use the Miracle Field.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I have seen them. They typically fence those whole Miracle Fields in. If you have ever been to Holiday Park you can’t get into the baseball field. You have to climb a six-foot fence. I would imagine that would be the same thought process if they do a Miracle Field.
Mr. Morgan: If you see what is happening on Saturday not that I am complaining about it, I am just saying every Saturday and Sunday there are soccer teams and

everything playing on the big baseball field. That fence would be moved all the way in. It would be a much smaller area.
Mr. Kapish: Those teams would no longer be using that park period so you would actually lose people so you wouldn’t have all that activity.
Mr. Carney: They have to have a permit for that.
Mr. Morgan: Somebody has to eventually put the horse in front of the cart and say will are willing to do. Hopefully, the City is going to speak up and say this is what we would like you to do. There has to be a point to negotiate. Whatever it might be we are willing to spend $100,000. The City says we want you to put $200,000 in well there is going to be a negotiation there that we are going to have to negotiate. That is what you are there for. Mr. Carney: Whatever our findings are we will come back to the Board of course.
The playset, the rubberized mats if we do it and all this stuff is going to be earlier than the Miracle Field no question about it.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I will caution you on putting in something that the City doesn’t want. If they don’t want the rubberized mat, we don’t want it either. The City is going to say ok it is yours. You take care of it; you are responsible for it. CDD’s are not in the business of maintaining playground equipment in playground areas. I would just caution you. I think that would be a big maintenance responsibility if we take that on.
Mr. Morgan: I was talking to a friend not long ago about a park and Skip you will remember this. Our parks were filled with gravel. When you would fall off of the sliding board or whatever I know you never experienced this Patrick but when you fall down on your face you get up with gravel stuck to your skin. Now mulch is a much better thing. Sand, mulch, or these rubberized things. Like I said I don’t think the City puts them in anymore. It is a maintenance issue. It is very expensive. You see all the maintenance issues we have had with ours. If the City says you are going to maintain it that is just another maintenance issue for us.
Mr. Carney: A ten-year-old is not going to use it because it is mulch.
Mr. Morgan: Exactly. So, you spend your money on more valuable things. I am not suggesting gravel.

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Mr. Carney: Let me ask you a question if they give us X amount of dollars for the play set if we upgrade the playset should we stay with the same people they are using so that way or is there liability there having different play sets with what the City is wanting? Mr. Pawelczyk: I don't think so because I would assume if we were contributing towards a playset the COD is going to enter into an agreement that says we will write you a check for this amount. This amount shall be used for this, and they will purchase it. I would assume that is the way it will work. The City I doubt is going to want the COD to
install playground equipment.
Mr. Carney: That was my point.
Mr. Pawelczyk: They purchase on a State contract usually. I would imagine that is the way it will work. As you know we can always work out those issues once you guys figure out between the multiple people that are going to be what they want.
Mr. Carney: Ok good. Barry, I forgot you were there. Would you like to share anything under Supervisor requests? Do you have anything?
Mr. Winfree: No, not at this time.
Mr. Carney: Be safe out there and we will see you soon. Alright, a motion to adjourn please.

FOURTEENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS Adjournment