MINUTES OF MEETING TURTLE RUN
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT

A regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the Turtle Run Community Development District was held on Monday, April 29, 2024, at 6:00 p.m. at the Coral Bay Recreation Center, 3101 South Bay Drive, Margate, Florida.

Present and constituting a quorum:
Skip Carney	Chairman
Zaida Karnegis	Vice Chairman
Lance Morgan	Assistant Secretary
Barry Winfree	Assistant Secretary (via telecommunication)
Rob Shipe	Assistant Secretary Also present were:
Julio Padilla	District Manager
Michael Pawelczyk	District Counsel
Jonathan Geiger	District Engineer
Patrick Burgess	Governmental Management Services
Pat Szozda	Governmental Management Services Several Residents
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS	Roll Call
Mr. Carney called the meeting to order, and Mr. Padilla called the roll.

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS	Moment of Silence
Mr. Carney led a moment of silence.

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS	Pledge of Allegiance
Mr. Carney led the Pledge of Allegiance.

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Good News
Mr. Carney: Good news segment. Lance, do you have anything? Mr. Morgan: No, nothing tonight thank you.
Mr. Carney: Rob? Mr. Shipe: Nope.

Mr. Carney: Zaida?
Ms. Karnegis: No.
Mr. Carney: Barry any good news? Ok.  One thing is that the flags look great.
Patrick the color is vibrant. They look nice. I like them.
Mr. Morgan: I took a picture the other day when they were flowing, and they looked really good. Good job. That is the new flag. I think we have one at the other entrance by Walmart or by Lowes.
Mr. Burgess: Yes, that is correct.

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Public Comment
Mr. Carney: Public comment. Ken?
Resident Ken: I wanted to address the security issues of trespassing and fishing in the lakes. We constantly have people in our backyard. I have to tell them to please move, you are not allowed to fish back here, and that you are trespassing. We have had a lot of arguments. There are just tons of people. They are in a lot of hoodies and backpacks. You can see they are not really fishing, they are casting and quickly reeling it in and looking at the houses. So to me, they are scoping the homes.
Mr. Carney: Where do you back up to?
Resident Ken: Lake Rachel. If you come in Newport, I am the third house on the
right.
Mr. Carney: They are on your land; they are right there.
Resident Ken: Yes, they are on my land. I am the third house in from the end so
they will just walk in and just keep fishing. They will walk past me to the next house. It sets my dog off. It sets all my neighbor's dogs off and we keep asking the people to leave. It is a daily occurrence. I know that in the past there were no trespassing signs because you are not allowed to fish in these lakes. At least that is what I have always been told unless it is on your own property, or you are in a boat. What can we do to address this situation?
Mr. Morgan: Ken and I, for full disclosure work out at the gym together, not together but we are usually at the gym at the same time. He brought this probably months ago, this problem to my attention. Obviously, we used to have No Trespassing signs. They

were on 4 x 4’s with a sign that said No Trespassing. I don’t know how many we had but we probably had 30 or 40 throughout Turtle Run even out under the powerlines. Over the years they got damaged, some rotted out so on and so forth and they were eventually all removed probably three or four years ago give or take. Some of them were removed, some at a time, and eventually, the ones that were rotted were removed and then eventually all of them were removed. He expressed his concern to me several times at the gym. I gave him previously Chris’s phone number for the weekend.
Mr. Carney: Chris from Sunstate.
Mr. Morgan: Our security guy and I also gave him Carlos’s number also if anybody comes in his backyard. He asked me today if there’s any chance of getting signs put back. I said I didn’t know. It would be an expensive proposition, possibly. Maybe at least put them periodically throughout Turtle Run or something like that. I don’t think that we can put No Trespassing signs on our existing poles because those poles are drilled. They have steel in them, and those poles are drilled with the drill holes in them specifically just for the signs that they have on there. If you have a sign underneath you put another sign that is called a rocker or something like that. I don’t know if we would be able to do that. Plus the lake bank signs that we currently have are in specific locations.
Mr. Carney: And not in a good place.
Mr. Morgan: Maybe we could do a drive-through with Pat and look at them and consider what our options are.
Mr. Carney: Pat, do you want to take that on? Mr. Szozda: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carney: Look at the entrances, see how many we need leading into their backyard, and we go from there. I know at one time we did attempt to put No Fishing but that is illegal, you can’t do No Fishing.
Mr. Morgan: I don’t recall that.
Mr. Carney: I thought we got called out on that at one time. Anyway, let’s look at the amount of signs we need.
Mr. Morgan: I told him what we could possibly do if we decide to move forward with this and say we are going to put up 20 or 30 of these things throughout Turtle Run. I don’t know how many lakes. We design the sign. It could say No Trespassing to include fishing

or something like that in a sign that we make. I don’t know. People don’t understand that you have to trespass before you can do anything else. I have seen people standing right next to the No Trespassing sign which means nothing to them. Maybe explaining no fishing means also no trespassing.
Resident Ken: I put one on my property at each end of my property. One of them is gone and I literally have people step over it. You can buy it at Home Depot or Lowes and says No Trespassing. I wrote in the white part no fishing, and they would step over it and fish right next to it and do this. A lot of times they are doing this, they are looking in the houses. Little kids that is fine, we understand that, but you have these people coming, grown men from all over the place. They park over at Target or that back lot over there and they are just coming across the street. They are not there to fish to begin with.
Mr. Carney: We all have kids growing up in that area. My kids fished in these lakes for 12 years. How do you decide which is which?
Resident Ken: Common sense. Mr. Carney: Yes.
Resident Ken: We had this I gather he was Eastern European for sure over the weekend. Chris wasn’t on. Nobody was on yet. It was in the morning.
A resident: I called the non-emergency number. A cop showed up and I had a discussion with him, and I guess the cop let him fish on the other side.
Resident Ken: Not on our property.
A resident: He walked on our property and started fishing and I came out and said you are trespassing, you are on our property. I can fish here. They argue with you. I had a teenager film me as I was telling him to get off my property, I am going to call the cops. I was like I am going to film you. We shouldn’t have to deal with that.
Resident Ken: I get it, people are still going to ignore signs but at least if we have it, they will deter a percentage of people from doing it.
Mr. Carney: One thing the signs will do is it will give the people that drive around that are supposedly enforcing the laws something to make reference to. You are violating it right here. You have a reference point. I think that is important.
Resident Ken: Agreed.
Mr. Carney: We can look into that.

Ms. Karnegis: We can look at different signs. There is a lot including the penalty.
What is the penalty?
Mr. Carney: I have had families of 20 people in my backyard leaving their McDonald’s bags.
Mr. Morgan: People do fish and have these five-gallon buckets and I found a whole bunch full of dead fish one day. I don’t know if they were good fish or bad fish or whatever but to come in and fish in our lakes and have a whole bucket full of fish and just leave them there to die. We have dealt with this before under the powerlines where people were coming in and making allegations that these people were scoping houses out. They have backpacks on and so on and so forth so who knows what they are doing. Sometimes people are legitimately fishers. We have beautiful lakes. I told you it is something we can look at.
Resident Ken: I appreciate it.
Mr. Carney: I am not against the kids fishing but I am against everything you are talking about. Anything else you have?
Resident Ken: I don’t have anything else. Mr. Carney: Thank you very much. Vick?
Ms. Pruitt: I have a question. Have we ever discussed putting speed breaks or something to deter speeding on Turtle Run Boulevard?
Mr. Carney: We do not own our streets. We can’t put gated community up and things like that even if we wanted to. Quite honestly I think speed bumps bring the neighborhood down a little bit. That is my vision of speed bumps anyway.
Mr. Morgan: An engineer could address this but every street has a certain designation or designee like Turtle Run Boulevard is known as a collector road I believe where it collects traffic off the main roads and puts it through. That is how it has been explained to me. Now we have cut down to one lane and the speed limit is 35 mph. The city would probably be very hesitant to put speed bumps on that street. The internal streets you could probably if there was some data showing that there have been accidents or children hurt or things like that you would have to show some type of need for speed bumps. The city is generally very hesitant to put speed bumps anywhere.
Ms. Pruitt: I was just wondering because there is speeding out there.

Mr. Morgan: That is something we have been fighting with for 30 years. Turtle Run is down to one lane now, but you still have people in the morning, I see them all the time. Can you add anything to that Jonathan?
Mr. Geiger: Lance is correct. We would have to go through the city. We would have to provide data. They are not going to put them on Turtle Creek because of the buses. Turtle Run is one lane. You don’t normally put speed bumps on one-lane roads. We already widened medians and shrank lanes down. The bike lanes help deter people from having more space. It would be a hard sell. They have routinely asked us when we shrunk lanes to ask for the traffic studies.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I think the city even mentioned before because Turtle Run is used by emergency vehicles they don’t want to put the speed bumps on there. They don’t like them on those kinds of roads.
Mr. Morgan: They do have a few out on Coral Hills Drive. A whole lot. I wonder who lives out there? I am just wondering. I am sorry.
Mr. Carney: Anything else? Clarence? Mr. Lohman: No.
Mr. Carney: Debbie?
Ms. Devlin: No, I am good.
Mr. Carney: Ok, thank you. Thank you for coming everyone.

SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Approval of the Minutes of the
March 11, 2024 and March 25,
2024 Meetings
Mr. Carney: Approval of the minutes of the March 11, 2024, and the March 25, 2024 meetings. Can I have a motion to approve?

On MOTION by Ms. Karnegis seconded by Mr. Morgan with all in favor, the Minutes of the March 11, 2024 and March 25, 2024 Meetings were approved.

SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Appointment of Audit Selection
Committee
Audit Selection Committee Meeting

Opening Audit Selection Committee Meeting
Mr. Padilla: First we need a motion to open the audit selection committee meeting.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Shipe with all in favor, the Audit Selection Committee Meeting was opened.

Roll Call
Mr. Padilla: The next item on the committee meeting is the roll call. I am going to do a roll call again.
Selection of Criteria for Evaluation
Mr. Padilla: The next item is the selection of the criteria for evaluation. If you look at the agenda it will show you the evaluation process that takes place during this audit selection. It is pretty much the same way we have been doing it in the past. That hasn’t changed. It is on a point basis and there are five different topics. If there is no discussion we need a motion to approve the selection of criteria for evaluation.
Mr. Carney: So we are putting a bid in for auditing. Is that what we are doing actually?
Mr. Padilla: This is for the auditor, yes.
Mr. Morgan: Mike, did you have something?
Mr. Pawelczyk: I just want to clarify because I don’t think we went through this process with Rob or Barry. This is new for them. There is a Statute I think it is Chapter 218 of the Florida Statutes that requires local governments to go through this audit selection process. The City of Coral Springs has to do the same thing. We can really go through this every five years. I think we do it every three to five years. What it requires you to do is appoint an audit selection committee. Well previously the CDD Board has appointed itself as the audit selection committee which is fine as all my CDDs do and all their CDDs do. Nobody has a separate audit selection committee. The City of Coral Springs might have a separate one but that is a little different situation than we have for our small District. The audit selection committee then has to approve these criteria that is in here. The five criteria, four of them are required by the Statute and the fifth one is price. The price is optional. What I think your managers have found and I have certainly observed is that if you don’t have a price in there they are all equal because they are all going to have experience with CDDs, CDD clients, they understand the scope of work,

etc. so price often is your defining criteria or can be. That is why it is set up this way. If the Board wanted to consider other criteria they could but I will tell you that is not usually done. They usually accept these criteria. The next thing they will ask you to do is approve the RFP. This is a standard RFP form that GMS uses. They will advertise it. They will also send it to all the audit companies that have responded to this RFP in the past. I think Grau is your auditor here. They don’t just work with Grau, they may work with three, four, or six different audit firms that do this work throughout the State. What they are asking for is for that audit firm to come back and give us I think here it is three to five years of what the cost is going to be for each of the next five years, so we don’t have to go through this process again. Every year you still have to approve an engagement letter with that audit firm. You basically are releasing them to do your audit. In other words, what I am telling you is if we go through this process and we pick ABC Corp to do this work if we thought they did a bad job or we didn’t like their report or didn’t like the way they did their business we can go out for bid again next year. We are not obligated to be on there for three or five years. Going through this process just allows us not to have to go through the audit selection process every year. That is kind of the overview. Also what you are doing now is you have your audit selection committee hat on. You will approve this criteria, approve the RFP, and authorize it to go out. At the next meeting or subsequent meeting once the proposals come in the audit selection committee will review the proposals, rank them one through whatever, and convey that ranking to the Board. You just change your hat and the Board would accept that ranking and authorize to enter into an agreement. That is an overview.
Mr. Shipe: Ok.
Mr. Pawelczyk: So, unless there is any question the first thing that I think they want you to do is actually you can do it in one motion is to approve the audit selection criteria and authorize the RFP.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, Selection of Criteria for evaluation and authorizing an RFP was approved.

Authorizing RFP

Adjournment

we?

Mr. Carney: Julio, we have had the same auditing company for a while now haven’t

Mr. Padilla: Yes we have.
Mr. Pawelczyk: We need a motion to adjourn the committee meeting.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Shipe with all in favor, the Audit Selection Committee Meeting was adjourned.

EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Approval of Third Amendment to
District Engineer Agreement with KCI Technologies, Inc.
Mr. Carney: Before we approve the engineer's third amendment we have to talk about the rates. We can’t put the carriage before the horse here. Everyone had a chance to look at the KCI engineering rates. Does anybody have any questions as far as the rates are concerned? The reality of it is we approve, or we look elsewhere, right?
Mr. Morgan: What are the new rates, Jonathan?
Mr. Geiger: There are two tables in there. I presented to you new rates and the Board asked for a comparison. It is not consistent like I said. My rates have gone up 15.3%. My boss has gone up 25%. You have the old rates and the new rates. Byron Reynolds is my coworker who occasionally had to do some stuff for the District. I am your main contact and main person who works on it. Robert Zuccaro my boss, occasionally has to when he is certifying things or is checking plans, so I wanted to quote his rates. Down at the bottom the two and three-person survey crew which is the other staff that the District would normally utilize for doing work when we have projects that require survey work.
Mr. Carney: You did submit this at the last meeting, we just didn’t have any comparison.
Mr. Geiger: That is why it is back. Mike went ahead and prepared the amendment so if this does get approved.
Mr. Carney: Does anybody have any questions? Mr. Morgan: Are we happy with the new rates?

Mr. Carney: Do we have a choice? It doesn’t sound like he is giving us any negotiating terms here.
Mr. Geiger: I have already passed this to GMS when they were looking at the budget to be discussed later. That was given to them to make sure it does fit in with the District budget and everything. These rates don’t take place until October.
Mr. Morgan: I would say that I think the District is happy with Jonathan and the job that he does for us. Everything is moving up in price. I don’t know how the other Board members feel. Pat, you work with Jonathan more than I do. What is your evaluation of his performance in the field?
Mr. Szozda: Very responsive, very professional.
Mr. Carney: Jonathan you put a good face on KCI that is all I have to say.
Mr. Morgan: I am happy with him, so I make a motion to approve the new rates. Mr. Pawelczyk: And authorize the execution of their amendment.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Shipe with all in favor, the Third Amendment to the District Engineer Agreement with KCI Technologies, Inc. was approved.

Mr. Geiger: One of the things that some other Districts have done with the rates going up is if there are meetings where they don’t think engineering needs to be there they just have GMS reach out and say if you don’t have anything to present, you can skip the meeting. I can still send a report in. Pat and Julio can field any questions the Board may have or get them back to me.
Mr. Carney: Thank you for that.

NINTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Staff Reports
Attorney
Mr. Carney: Mike?
Mr. Pawelczyk: I don’t have anything to report. It has been very quiet. Any questions?

Engineer
Discussion of 2024 KCI Rates

Update on Tortoise Way East Monument Retaining Wall
Mr. Geiger: The only thing on Tortoise Way is I checked the permit this morning. The structural approver did approve it, but the permit is not approved in the system yet. It says they have to the 27th and I am not sure why it hasn’t been approved yet. I am going to reach out and see if the contractor can reach out to the city to see what the hold-up is. We have complied with all the revisions they requested and all the additional information. At this point, we are just waiting for them to issue the permit so the contractor can start the work at which time we will have the preconstruction meeting. The wall is not going to take long to put in from what I understand.
Mr. Shipe: I was reading the minutes from two meetings ago and you mentioned I think that is the apartment property, not the CDD property.
Mr. Geiger: There is an easement there. We have an easement to construct, maintain, or demolish that wall. The easement goes up to where that property sidewalk is. It is a pretty big easement back there.
Mr. Szozda: On that subject, I went and spoke to the people in the apartment complex just as a courtesy to let them know so when we get the go ahead I will inform them that it could be a mess for a little bit. They have been informed.
Mr. Morgan: What are we looking at for the starting date?
Mr. Geiger: I think they are waiting to get the permit in hand. Speaking with Patrick when they get this permit we are going to push for them to get the start date sooner rather than later. They should have all the material at this point, right?
Mr. Burgess: Yes. They are ready to go.
Mr. Morgan: You are going to be the inspector on the job?
Mr. Geiger: Yes. There are a couple of city inspections but for the structural side, they require a special inspector form, which we have done for some of the other things. A third party has to look at their work to make sure it is following the plans and everything. I will be onsite periodically just to make sure they are actually getting stuff done and that the restoration gets done correctly as well.
Mr. Carney: Jonathan anything else? Mr. Geiger: That is all I have for tonight.
Field Manager
Annual Maintenance Plan

Update on
Fallen Tree on Turtle Run Blvd. West of Creekside
Industrial Divers Site #12 (Turtle Run Blvd.) – Dredge 150’ from East Outfall to Storm Drain Structure to Clear High Material for $8,000
Mr. Szozda: I will just touch base on a couple of things for April. The flags have been changed out. I think everybody got that in their updates. The one thing we are going to adjust slightly is unfortunately after they had laid a bunch of the mulch they came out and trimmed the bushes like three days later. We had a conversation with Barry, and he is going to make sure we move that up, so it is not done after the mulch. We did get the Sylvester’s trimmed before the mulch was laid. A minor tweak there but everything should be in order. Everything else is pretty much completed on the maintenance schedule.
Mr. Carney: When you and I drove around we had a conversation with Steve from People’s Choice. He made a comment that instead of doing it twice a year or however many times we do it now, maybe put a program in place that it doesn’t get really bad before they do it. Maybe just take a look at what that is going to cost. Instead of it looking bad then looking good it stays pretty consistent throughout the year. You can just look at that.
Mr. Shipe: Pat, just a question. On some of the landscaping along the streets that go up to people's property, there is some landscape that stops and there is a foot between the lights and the fences, and some go all the way up to the fences where people really can’t get back there to do their maintenance. Have we looked at it as the Board and I guess maybe because it is private property but cleaning the backside of the fences along the areas where the landscaping goes all the way up to the fences?
Mr. Szozda: That is kind of a grey area. You really don’t want to get on somebody else’s property, but we clean it up as much as possible.
Mr. Morgan: Do you mean clean the fences? Mr. Shipe: Fences.
Mr. Morgan: That is private property their fences.
Mr. Szozda: We are trying to go the hedges to the top of the fences.
Mr. Morgan: Actually in the Estates it would be an HOA violation. The latest fence down by my street was pressure cleaned and painted recently. You might see that as you go from your house towards 41 Street. You will see a dark barn brown fence that was just

recently painted. The HOA has made people clean their fences of all the mildew and that type of thing and paint them. Those fences are privately owned by generally the residents.
Mr. Shipe: My point was some areas where there is a foot or two where they can get back there and work on the fences. Some of the areas the landscaping is right up to the fence, so they don’t have a way to get in there. If they are bringing the vegetation up to five feet and you don’t see it, then that makes sense.
Mr. Morgan: Also when you put a hedge in sometimes it might be two feet wide, and it grows to be four to five feet wide so that closes the gap. Hopefully, the plan is going to be eventually to have nothing but clusia the whole way. We will have enough distance so people can get back there for maintenance. Some of those hedges are probably six feet wide now.
Mr. Shipe: Ok, thank you.
Mr. Carney: Do you want to talk about the fallen tree?
Mr. Szozda: It was April 16 around 1:30 in the afternoon on a beautiful sunny day Santos gave me a phone call which I had to try to interpret about a tree going down. It was right along Turtle Run Boulevard between Creekside and basically Hidden Lake. A completely healthy-looking tree. There has been a tremendous amount of wind. Patrick has come pictures. It was a beautiful tree. No sign of distress. I had Rusty go check it out. He says there would have been nothing visual that you would have noticed that you could tell the tree was in any way shape or form rotting. Unfortunately, there was an incident. There was a gentleman walking his dog that I spoke to after the incident. It tore his shirt. It brushed him. As a courtesy if you need to get checked out, get checked out. I do believe he went to get checked out. I have not heard back from this individual. He lives in the apartments there. I don’t think he would be hard to track down if there are any issues. He was physically fine and speaking with me.
Mr. Carney: What is the cost for that tree to be removed?
Mr. Szozda: $4,000. It was negotiated because I didn’t view it as an emergency. Their first offer was $5,000 and I was just like that is not in line even if you are going to be out the next day. I called Skip. They agreed to do it for $4,000. The other part of the story is the city came by and moved it off the road and across the sidewalk. They did it for no charge. When he initially said $5,000 I said the city has already done half your

work, not half of it but a portion of it. They literally moved it to the other side of the sidewalk.
Mr. Carney: I tried talking to the city guy to take the whole tree, but he wouldn’t go
for it.
Mr. Szozda: On that note, with that being said, I do have a proposal to replace said
tree with two other maples. Obviously, there would be a small aversion. There is a pretty big gap there or we could go with a different variety of tree.
Mr. Carney: Is it all stump ground already?
Mr. Szozda: That has already been taken care of. Mr. Carney: We can look at the area and figure it out.
Mr. Morgan: Pat and I did that. I went out with Pat after it was cleaned and stump ground and we think two maples, 35 to 55-gallon maples would go in perfectly there. Did Ivan give us a price for those Pat?
Mr. Szozda: Yes 45 gallons, two of them installed would be $2,122.20.
Mr. Morgan: That is a pretty good price being installed. 45-gallon maples probably go for about $700 apiece. First-grade fancy?
Mr. Szozda: I haven’t seen them yet but if I get this approved I will make sure I get a picture.
Mr. Morgan: Make sure they are first-grade fancy because that is all we put in Turtle Run. Pat and I were out there. We kind of sized it up with our metrics. Ivan was there. We think two maples would go well in there. That is what we have been putting in Turtle Run off of the median, so I make the motion that we go ahead and have Ivan do that.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Shipe with all in favor, a proposal from BrightView in the amount of $2,122.20 to install two maple trees on Turtle Run Boulevard West was approved.

Mr. Carney: $4,000 for one tree, a couple thousand to replace it and we have
$500,000 in our emergency fund, and if a hurricane comes through here you know what

the expense to clean this place is going to be? That $500,000 will go quickly at $4,000 a tree. Just keep that in your mind.
Mr. Morgan: One question. When we were out there that day we showed Ivan the other tree that had been removed a long time ago and was never stump ground. He took pictures of that and said he was going to have that done with this job.
Mr. Szozda: The one in the park.
Mr. Morgan: No, the one down by the fence. Mr. Szozda: Oh yeah.
Mr. Morgan: I don’t think he stump ground that. Did he charge us for that? Mr. Szozda: No.
Mr. Morgan: He took a picture and said he was going to stump grind that one too. He told me he told his guys, but it never got done. Bring that up with Ivan tomorrow, please.
Mr. Szozda: Will do.
Mr. Morgan: Thank you.
Mr. Carney: Industrial Divers, someone want to talk on that?
Mr. Padilla: The divers weren’t able to finish their work as far as cleaning out the
outfall.
Mr. Carney: Industrial Divers clean all the waterways going to meet the streets.
Divers go in there and keep them clean so if you have a hurricane go through, the water will flow. Just so everyone knows that.
Mr. Padilla: The reason was because there was a lot of rain back then. While we were having the dry season there was some type of irrigation break that we had. That was taken care of. We have been in dry weather, and they were able to go out there, dredge, and clean out and it has been completed.
Mr. Carney: How many pipes do we have? Are there more than 20? They dive them every year to make sure they are cleared so we have water that can flow through. Ok. Anything else on that Julio?
Mr. Padilla: No, sir.

Mr. Carney: I have a couple of questions here for Patrick. Can you tell us what happened on Saturday at 5:30 a.m., please? The Board members aren’t aware of what happened. I am.
Mr. Burgess: I got a call at 5:30 on Saturday morning that some detectives that we have been working with called the individual that keeps stealing our Board meeting signs outside of Newport. I spoke with him and spoke with Skip about the situation. We have some more information that I know Skip is privy to, but I was told that the individual that the cops were speaking with was given checks from the Foundation to remove these signs. That is about all the information that I had at that time in the morning. I have been working with a detective that is out of town, so she is going to get back to me to clear up the case. Our signs have been stolen about six times.
Mr. Carney: Six times over the last what? Mr. Burgess: Eight months.
Mr. Carney: How many police reports have you filled out?
Mr. Burgess: At least six or seven. I have talked to the detective quite a few times. Mr. Carney: What is the cost of our losses so far on that not including your time?
Mr. Burgess: We spent about $1,500 on sign replacements. We chained down the frames to the signs so they come through, rip the inserts out and dispose of them in Target dumpsters or wherever they can.
Mr. Morgan: So, they were stolen six times and how many times damaged? Mr. Burgess: We could not get them back at least three times.
Mr. Szozda: There were times before they were tearing them out and they were painting them and that cost us to replace them.
Mr. Carney: Let me ask you a question. The two, the Grove and Newport come up missing, but the roundabout sign never gets touched, correct?
Mr. Burgess: Yes the roundabout sign we replaced it going on Tortoise once and the camera caught someone removing the sign. They parked by the entrance to the park.
Mr. Carney: We had the sign further up where the cameras couldn’t see. Mr. Burgess: So we moved it closer to the Turtle Run cameras.
Mr. Carney: They weren’t touched anymore once we moved them closer to the cameras.

Mr. Burgess: We put one outside the Grove and then outside of Newport and those are always vandalized or stolen every single Friday morning.
Mr. Carney: And then the last two or three times we have a video of the same blue SUV right?
Mr. Burgess: Yes.
Mr. Carney: We talked about missing signs in this meeting multiple times. I am a little bit disappointed that Mr. Kapish being in charge of the Foundation wouldn’t have said something or sent Julio a letter from the Foundation saying that we are in violation. We should not have our sign out there, yet the signs are on the CDD property and are CDD signs. Am I correct to say that?
Mr. Burgess: Pat and I do the field out there and we were told to put the signs out there by the Board. No one was hired by anyone within the District to remove these signs. It is a lot of work to pop out each individual letter. Pat puts in a lot of time in doing it. It is not a simple task. It is pretty aggravating that someone is telling this individual to go and remove the signs that they don’t have any authority to do.
Mr. Carney: Who did they say is picking up the signs?
Mr. Burgess: I wasn’t given a name. I was just given that the individual had a Turtle Run Foundation check.
Mr. Carney: I have seen the financials I think is it called PC Schumacher. Mr. Burgess: That is correct.
Mr. Carney: From what I understand that is one of and I just want to put this on the table, they are hired to pick up signs and report certain things but then again so does Santos. So we have a redundancy of service here of what Santos does and what this other company is supposed to do, am I right in saying that?
Mr. Burgess: Absolutely.
Mr. Carney: Does anybody have anything to say about that?
Ms. Karnegis: I know that there was an article that they ran about it with PC Schumacher. I believe that they are the in-laws of Chris Kapish, mother-in-law, father-in- law, and various relatives. There was an article about it that came out and they were talking about money being involved and how much they were getting paid, repetitions, and stuff like that. I am surprised that hasn’t been addressed. I am just talking about the

Foundation, it is something they need to look at because that is homeowners money that is being thrown away of repetitious work. That is a lot of money. I was very surprised when I read that article about how much somebody is getting. Are they active when you are out there, do you see them working? Are they actively picking up signs?
Mr. Szozda: I have never seen anybody out there. I am there four days a week. I have never seen anybody out there.
Ms. Karnegis: I have never seen anything. I know we have had other signs. We have had Turtle Run Day signs, we have HOA meetings, and one time we even had them taped to a post. They never had any problems with any of those signs.
Mr. Burgess: The signs that are typically taken by either Pat and I doing it are like for sale signs or advertisements from companies that are on District property. This sign was advertising a District meeting authorized by the Board.
Mr. Szozda: The last Foundation meeting we didn’t touch those signs. We let them sit. We could have removed those too. They had them strapped to the pole, but it was involving Turtle Run.
Ms. Karnegis: We don’t want to do that.
Mr. Szozda: We weren’t going to remove those. We are not removing the Turtle Run Day signs but if it is something outside the realm of our business then we feel obligated to take them down.
Mr. Carney: When Dennis was here I had this conversation with Dennis, and he told me he had never seen PC Schumacher doing any business in Turtle Run. There is a responsibility here which is to patrol Turtle Run and remove all unauthorized signs which is what the porter does and what Pat does. Remove and return electronic box shopping carts. Pat, that’s you and code enforcement, correct?
Mr. Szozda: Me and the city.
Mr. Carney: The city plus Santos. Remove unauthorized banners. That is Santos and you. Report on homeless campsites. That is outlined in Sunstate Security. Remove unauthorized questionable containers and abandoned vehicles which is also Sunstate Security. It is definitely a duplication of services that we don’t think is being provided to our community. I just wanted to put that out there. Rob, do you have anything to say about that?

Mr. Shipe: Are we violating any rules by putting signs out? Mr. Pawelczyk: Not that we are aware of.
Mr. Carney: If we were, we should have gotten a letter from the Foundation before they started stealing our signs.
Mr. Shipe: Or the city.
Mr. Pawelczyk: It is our property. I don’t think we are subject to the Foundation. I don’t even know if there are covenants with the Foundation.
Mr. Morgan: Is the medians CDD property?
Mr. Pawelczyk: No. The medians on Turtle Run Boulevard for instance the CDD has an easement.
Mr. Morgan: Does that allow the CDD to put signs up?
Mr. Pawelczyk: It is under the license agreement whatever that agreement says. Mr. Morgan: I am just wondering.
Mr. Pawelczyk: The only one that could remove that would be the city. Mr. Morgan: The medians are not CDD property, right?
Mr. Pawelczyk: I don’t know every parcel of property here but in general no. That is covered by the license agreement we have with the City of Coral Springs.
Mr. Carney: There is also a letter I have here from the Turtle Run Community Development District Supervisors dated May 9, 2023, stating that on April 2023 landscaping material was removed from the community. That letter was sent to Mr. Kapish and the District Board of Directors indicated they would not take any future intrusions into the District lightly intending to take all necessary actions to preserve District property. This letter to the Estates HOA was approved by the legal counsel and sent by Julio Padilla. We have had similar issues before, and it was addressed. I am just putting that on the table.
Mr. Morgan: So what are we planning to do?
Mr. Carney: Just for information purposes only. The Board didn’t know.
Mr. Shipe: I think we are going to press charges just as we would if it was a juvenile out there with a spray can vandalizing. I think where we are right now we are waiting for the report back from the detective.

Mr. Carney: We have been working with a detective for what six months? Three months? I don’t know how long.
Mr. Burgess: Yes.
Mr. Morgan: Pat we talked about this before. They are either getting removed or damaged, that is my understanding, correct?
Mr. Szozda: Correct. Initially, they painted them which ruins the whole board basically so then it has to be completely replaced.
Mr. Shipe: If it was the Foundation they didn’t take it down, bring it to the CDD, and say your signs aren’t supposed to be, here they are. They took them to a trash can that was illegal to throw independent trash into Target’s receptacles and threw them in there. Part of it was tracking them and that is how they knew they were throwing them away. A, they were stealing them, and B, they were throwing them away and trying to hide them.
Mr. Szozda: And never touching anything on the roundabout. That is a telltale sign that it is an unscrupulous activity.
Ms. Karnegis: So we have never heard from them at all telling us, we have only found them in trash cans?
Mr. Szozda: Correct.
Mr. Carney: The police officer that I spoke to on Saturday morning said that one was never missing where the camera is and the other two are always missing. It is definitely a sign of intent is what he told me. I will just leave it with them.
Ms. Karnegis: Are they going to take legal action? Mr. Carney: That is up to them.
Ms. Karnegis: So we don’t know yet.
Mr. Carney: I am not sure where it is going to go yet.
Mr. Burgess: That would be up to the Board about what the Board wants to do. Mr. Carney: We have to get the report back first.
Mr. Pawelczyk: We have to get the report. It just happened on Saturday. They have to determine whether or not they have enough evidence to move forward on a criminal side.
Mr. Burgess: Any updates I will forward it. Mr. Carney: Julio's manager progress report.

Manager
Progress Report
Memorandum on 2024 Qualifying Candidate
Number of Registered Voters in the District – 2,485
Mr. Padilla: I do have one update. It has to do with the BrightView and Santos increase amendment. That was executed today. The agreement has been sent to BrightView. I sent Randy an email so we can set up a meeting and discuss payment as far as how much we owe them and so on. We will work that out with our District accountant also.

that?

Mr. Carney: Memorandum on 2024 qualifying candidate. Do you want to speak on

Mr. Padilla: Just a reminder on the Form 1 Statement of Financials, does the Board

have any questions regarding the memorandum? There are 2,485 registered voters in the District.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I think the purpose of this memorandum is just to inform you and the public that the qualifying period for the next election is June 10th through the 14th. To qualify for that you have to go down to the Supervisor of Elections and qualify. Don’t ask the CDD any questions about that, call the Supervisor of Elections I think that is the general purpose of the memo. I don’t know who is up for election, whose term is up unless it is on the agenda.
Mr. Shipe: Barry and Skip.
Mr. Pawelczyk: If you have any general questions I can answer them but if it deals with your candidacy, please call the Supervisor of Elections.
Mr. Shipe: Do we put it in the paper individually or it is all of Broward County?
Mr. Pawelczyk: The CDD does advertise the qualifying period pursuant to Chapter 190 Florida Statutes. It is up to the people of Turtle Run to advertise that. I believe it is part of the agenda package and the minutes.
Mr. Carney: Ok.
TENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Financial Reports
Financial Report on Capital Projects, Emergency Funds, Capital Reserve and All Other Financial Issues
Approval of Check Register
Acceptance of Unaudited Financials

Mr. Carney: Financial reports. I just handed out the financial report. Capital reserve is $396,000. That number was almost $700,000 not too long ago. So that tells us there have been a lot of little projects that we have going on that deplete that rather quickly. Still, we should be working on some capital improvement projects. We have a couple of them on the table. Julio got a couple of them. I know something that was brought that I thought was interesting to take a look at the irrigation that we are digging up every pipe in Turtle Run is going to cost us $1,000,000 but that is not really what we are talking about. In speaking with Dwight and speaking with Pat and Jonathan the issues we have is wiring, clocks, and battery-operated nodes, which is the issue. The pipes themselves we fix them as they go. That is the biggest problem that Dwight has. Am I right Pat?
Mr. Szozda: Yes. The wiring and these nodes are battery-operated. If the battery dies the cell doesn’t kick on and you don’t know until the grass is about dead.
Mr. Carney: The biggest problem is the conduit, wiring, battery-operated nodes those are our biggest problems, it is not so much the pipes themselves, correct?
Mr. Szozda: Yes correct.
Mr. Carney: Maybe the conduit would have to be rerouted. In speaking to Jonathan about it is not even an engineering thing it is a BrightView thing. We wouldn’t even need engineering involved in that. That could solve our problem. It is not going to cost
$1,000,000 to do that. That is for sure. Anyway just wanted to bring that to light.
Mr. Shipe: Didn’t we also discuss bringing in a company that was going to give us a ten-year projection of things that would be needed to be fixed and some costs? Did we talk about that a couple of meetings ago?
Mr. Carney: Julio is taking that on.
Mr. Padilla: The next meeting we will have a proposal. Mr. Shipe: Ok.
Mr. Carney: What is that called again? Mr. Pawelczyk: A reserve study.
Mr. Winfree: Are we still working on the reserve study?
Mr. Padilla: I have one proposal that I will present at the next meeting. If I get the other one before then I will add that one also.
Mr. Carney: Anything else Barry?

Mr. Winfree: There should be plenty of opportunities out there to do a reserve study. There are a lot of people that do them. We should be able to get more than one and get an idea between a couple or three of what it should take. We need to start planning for the future, so we don’t run into problems in the future.
Mr. Padilla: Ok.
Mr. Carney: If you look at the second page I can tell you a little bit about what projects we have been working on, the monument walls, Cypress flagpoles, the retaining wall and resurfacing and retiling the foundation. That is where our capital money has gone so far. Right now, we are sitting pretty good. Our budget looks good. We are pretty close on all items. The bottom line seems to work out well. If anybody has any questions, if not approval of the check register, please.

On MOTION by Ms. Karnegis seconded by Mr. Morgan with all in favor, the Check Register was approved.

Mr. Carney: Acceptance of the unaudited financials is the budget that you see in your financials that shows you all the unaudited but that is the financials. We don’t need a motion to approve that right? It is for informational purposes, right? Ok.

ELEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Supervisors Requests
Mr. Carney: Supervisor requests, Lance?
Mr. Morgan: I have a few things. Pat, where they put in the new clusia hedge we were supposed to have sod put in from the hedge. They mulched it I understand. Is that your plan to rake the mulch back and put the sod in?
Mr. Szozda: They are going to rake it back. I already had that conversation with him. That was the first area they mulched when they were out there. We didn’t get the word out not to do that.
Mr. Morgan: So we know we are going to put at least one row of sod or two rows of sod.
Mr. Szozda:  Hopefully the monuments and the sod should be done by Friday.
That is my understanding.
Mr. Morgan: The mulch was done, how did they do it?

Mr. Szozda: Good, we have some touch-up areas. We are going to finish up Hidden Lake. They didn’t do it behind the monument on Creekside. We need a little more on the walk area across from Walmart and they did not do it in front of Lowes. The tree rings we are going to have done also.
Mr. Morgan: I walked the community and I think they did a very good job except for the areas they missed.
Mr. Szozda: There are some touch-ups, but it is minor.
Mr. Morgan: It is my understanding that the first row of oak trees in front of the tennis courts are hazards. I don’t know that to be a fact, I am just saying that is my understanding. They didn’t get the first row of oak trees.
Mr. Szozda: I thought they had all the oak trees done.
Mr. Morgan: Not as of yesterday. The oak trees in front of the tennis courts, take a look at that tomorrow and talk to them but my understanding those oak trees are ours and I would have them done. If they are ours have them done. We are good with that?
Mr. Szozda: We did install the jasmine at one time by the tennis courts. That is within our easement.
Mr. Morgan: They must have missed them or whatever the deal was there. The park looked good. Everything I saw looked good. We talked about the Passive Park out where the benches are, way out there.
Mr. Szozda: Yes, sir.
Mr. Morgan: And the sod by the clusia. How about the painting of Ms. Rodriquez’s
wall?
Mr. Szozda: I have a meeting on May 8th with Eagle Painting. I am going to have
them pressure clean the exterior of that wall and paint the interior.
Mr. Carney: Where is that?
Mr. Morgan: Ms. Rodriquez, who is the first house on the corner where we put the wall where it wraps around so to speak. She came up to me probably two weeks ago and said she was having a wedding that weekend, but she noticed the wall had mildew and a lot of the paint had discolored, chipped off, and stuff. Pat and I went out and looked at the wall. I told him to get an estimate from Eagle Painting to come look at the wall, pressure clean it like we did the wall down by Zaida’s house behind Alex’s house. There is a big

wall that we put there years ago. That paint was chipping and everything and we painted that about six or eight months ago. She complained about it. We are going to get an estimate for that. Also, with that being said the wall that is across the street we did probably six houses there where Ken Long used to live and if Ms. Rodriquez’s paint is deteriorating we are going to probably look at that too. It is the same age. They were all built around the same time. The backside of the walls is stucco and painted. They are not brick on the other side. Pat and I will take care of that and bring back an estimate or something like that. Mike, the ethics training is there a fee for that?
Mr. Pawelczyk: No.
Mr. Morgan: Can you send me that website again, please? Mr. Pawelczyk: Sure.
Mr. Morgan: They are going to have the ethics training at the FASD this year. I think they are charging an extra fee for that.
Mr. Carney: Where is that one being held?
Mr. Morgan: It is in Orlando this year. That is the Florida Association of Special Districts. They haven’t had their convention in like three years now. This is the first one. It is going to be in Orlando this year. It is a lot of information. I have been two to three times now. I have been saying that every Board member should go to a couple of them. It is a weeklong conference. It is Monday through Thursday and there are all these ethics classes and educational classes. You get to understand how special taxing Districts work. There is a lot of information there. It is worthwhile going. The Board voted years ago to support Board members going there. You might remember that Skip. That is coming up. I saw on their website that they charge extra fees.
Mr. Pawelczyk: If I were you I would try to do it in the comfort of your own home. Mr. Morgan: Yes I plan to.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I will just resend that memo when I get in the office tomorrow. The links are embedded in the memo.
Mr. Shipe: They also do have audio. I did mine through the internet on the audio. I just listened to them and there was no charge. Not through that group but through the State agency.

Mr. Pawelczyk: It is a good reminder to do it because you have to complete it before the end of this calendar year assuming you are going to stay on the Board. If you are not going to be on the Board after November 2024 then don’t do it. If you are planning on running again for those of you who are up for election I would say get it done because you don’t want to have to do this during the Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays.
Mr. Morgan: It is due by?
Mr. Pawelczyk: December 31, 2024, you have to complete your ethics training. You record that yourself If you have a Turtle Run file or Form 1 file that you maintain for yourself at your home just put a note in there attended the following seminar on this day and slide it in there or put it on your computer somewhere. As long as you have a record because it is all self-reporting.
Mr. Morgan: Did they give you a certificate or anything?
Mr. Pawelczyk: No. You don’t get anything so you just self-report that you did it.
Mr. Morgan: The last thing I have is at the main entrance. Skip, how are the entrance features progressing? Is it moving along? You are the point man.
Mr. Carney: I will report that at the next meeting. Right now it is slow. They are kind of going back and forth. One side is saying it is their fault and the other side is saying it is not our fault.
Mr. Morgan: Ok so it is moving along.
Mr. Carney: Yes. But it is still a back-and-forth.
Mr. Morgan: Pat and I looked at this last week when we did a drive-through that on the east entrance feature wall, about five slabs maybe more of the sidewalk is just cracked all through and through. It has been cracked for a while anticipating that these entrance features may have to be updated or repaired but they are cracked and are in disrepair, so I believe and maybe Jonathan knows about that. Jon Zac was supposed to repair those, but we delayed him repairing them because when they built it they broke them. It may be something we have to look at and address sooner rather than later.
Mr. Carney: Would that be a city issue Pat?
Mr. Szozda: Technically it is a city sidewalk but if there was damage done by a vendor.
Mr. Carney: But we don’t know for sure.

Mr. Szozda: So it should be a city issue.
Mr. Carney: Why don’t you address it with the city first and see if they can get it fixed for us?
Mr. Szozda: Absolutely.
Mr. Morgan: That is all I have thank you. Mr. Carney: Rob?
Mr. Shipe: I just got to thinking a little bit about the lakes and the fishing. If we do move forward with signs does it have to be on the CDD-controlled property or can we use the lake easements? Can we put a permanent sign in there?
Mr. Pawelczyk: I would think that it would probably have to be on CDD property or a CDD easement. I don’t think it can be in a lake maintenance easement because it has nothing to do with maintenance.
Mr. Shipe: Ok.
Mr. Carney: You might have a map if you dig deep enough in your file where they were before. We had them there.
Mr. Szozda: We will look that up.
Mr. Carney: We didn’t hire any major company like engineering to do it. A bag of cement, a gallon of water and we just stuck the pole in the ground. That is how they were installed. Right, Lance?
Mr. Pawelczyk: The rule is here that you can fish off the banks of the public areas like here but behind the homes, only the people that live behind the homes can fish there.
Mr. Morgan: We established a policy. I know Rob asked one time do we have a book of policies.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I don’t think there has been a rule in Turtle Run. Your problem with any rules that a CDD creates that doesn’t have like a rec facility like this the problem is you can’t enforce them. What are you going to do? You can’t fine them. There is nothing you can do other than turn off their transponders, and restrict their access to the rec facilities which is technically what they can do here.
Mr. Morgan: Are you saying Turtle Run can’t enforce it?
Mr. Pawelczyk: How are you going to enforce it other than trespassing?

Mr. Morgan: We can have security guards go; we have a policy of no fishing in our lakes then we have our security people.
Mr. Pawelczyk: But then you can’t do anything. You can prosecute. You can just tell them to move.
Mr. Morgan: That is called trespass after warning. I don’t know how that would apply to this case. We wouldn’t do it. From my understanding the security guards when they go to tell somebody to move along, and they decline, they call Coral Springs Police. The police then would say you are required to move. You are being ordered to move. Anybody who is trespassing gets an opportunity to leave under Florida State Statute. Once they refuse it is called trespass after warning unless you have been previously warned or documented in a no-trespass zone like Walmart with some of these people that steal. You get a trespass warning which means you can never come back into the store and if you violate that you are automatically arrested because you have been warned before.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I think the question is that we need that signage though. You need to have that No Trespassing sign in order for the police to issue that.
Mr. Morgan: For the police to initiate it yes, but not if our security guard is authorized by the Board. He can tell them to move and then he gets law enforcement involved.
Mr. Shipe: I hate to bring this up.
Mr. Pawelczyk: That is not our security guard.
Mr. Shipe: That is what I was just getting ready to say. It is not our security guard and as much as I like to have security I think it is a little overboard. I walked by them today. He has an external bulletproof vest on. He has six clips packed up in this thing. He has his billy club. You have all the kids walking by. It is but it doesn’t look like law enforcement.
Mr. Morgan: That must be the new guy.
Mr. Shipe: It was. It wasn’t one of the guys that I recognized before. It just seemed overboard that we need that much of an armed security as opposed to just a security officer who comes along and tells people they are not allowed. To me, it seemed overboard with the kids walking by and everything.

Mr. Morgan: I have noticed that there has been somebody parked at the entrance of your neighborhood during school hours because cars congregate there to pick up children in an unauthorized location. I think they had been directed to park there so people don’t come and pick up their kids and cause a traffic jam at that one location. I don’t disagree with you. They are not cops. They are armed guards with G licenses which means they can carry weapons. I guess Sunstate has certain regulations on what they can do. We can probably tell them to tone it down if you would like. However, on the other side they are walking the people under the powerlines, behind people’s houses fishing and some of our residents just said you don’t know who you are approaching and if you met some unsavory people that are fishing you might need every one of those clips or magazines I should say to get out of that situation. It is a concern. I do not disagree with you.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I think it is something that the Board needs to look at and see how you want to address it.
Mr. Morgan: I will mention that to the security guy Chris. He kind of runs the three of them and see if he can taper things down a little bit. Tone it down. I haven’t seen the new guy though.
Mr. Carney: Chris is a pretty good guy.
Mr. Shipe: But they are not under our control at all. Mr. Carney: No not the CDD. Zaida?
Ms. Karnegis: With the fishing, I just wanted to add maybe we can look at it because if we can’t enforce anything unless there is a sign and once there is a sign it will still take a few times and then they have to call, it has to be recorded by that time the person leaves and then we start again. Maybe a deterrence might be put in, finding out if you take the appropriate action and call law enforcement, what will be the final outcome? Will there be a fine and maybe post up there, this may lead to a $100 fine or something. Something that the person might think twice about.
Mr. Morgan: You are saying put a more forceful sign out there. Ms. Karnegis: Yes because no fishing is just a sign.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Lance indicated we can’t just have no fishing, it has to say no fishing, no trespassing.

Ms. Karnegis: Maybe we can look at the final outcome. We are not going to tell them they will be fined because we don’t know.
Mr. Morgan: Let them believe what they want to believe. Ms. Karnegis: Exactly.
Mr. Morgan: Technically if you do trespass after warnings it is a misdemeanor, and a misdemeanor could technically be a year in jail and a $1,000 fine.
Ms. Karnegis: I would put something there that maybe what the final outcome would be.
A resident: Can I say something? In Margate, I run the neighborhood watch program. It doesn’t cost you anything and we put up signs. It tells people if you don’t belong here we are going to call the police. Even if you do belong here, when you do call the police you remain anonymous nobody knows and once we establish that they have legitimate business there we say excuse me have a good day and we move on. If they don’t belong there you give us the right meaning law enforcement to trespass them. We put them in the system. If they get trespassed in another development in the same terminal run area and they get trespassed again when they look it up, it is flagged and comes up, they get arrested.
Mr. Morgan: That is what we were talking about. A resident: Just call the police.
Mr. Morgan: Here is the problem and I respect what you are saying, and I understand. Generally, it is a low-priority call. Coral Springs sometimes on serious calls takes 25 to 30 minutes. We have security guards that are kind of our first line of defense and generally, I have heard, I have heard that people have moved along to a different location. They go back and tell them a second time I am going to call the police if you don’t leave. The system is working.
A resident: When you deal with a security person they have to establish the resident was inaudible at this time. Then they have to call us. Time is of the essence and by the time we get out there they are either gone or the security guard didn’t know what to do. I am not advocating for you to hire a cop.
Mr. Morgan: We had Coral Springs cops four hours a day out there and we still had trespassers. Maybe they would move along a little bit more rapidly when the officer

gets on the loudspeaker and says you have to leave. But the security guards do a good job and with Coral Springs response time on a low-priority calls like you said most of the time people are gone or moved on.
Resident Ken: Unfortunately, from our last experience now the officers know the rules. They don’t know the rules that you can’t fish in Turtle Run.
Mr. Morgan: They were on your property specifically.
Resident Ken: But then he let the guy just fish right there off the side. Mr. Morgan: Those are our rules, not necessarily Coral Springs rules.
Resident Ken: That is why they are not going to know all those rules, that is why sometimes the guard.
A resident: Coral Bay has the details with Coral Bay PD. We know the easements. Even though you say it is your property there is an area there that is actually for the whole community that is allowed to walk on that part of the property. We know that. We establish the boundary. We do everything with them. We are not here 24/7, maybe three hours every other day. I am not advocating for you to get the police.
Mr. Morgan: I will tell you what happened one time. I took pictures. I should have kept the pictures, but I deleted all my pictures. In my opinion, our most delegate sacred area is the roundabout. It is unbelievable. You are not going to believe what I am going to tell you and most of the people here are not going to tell what I tell you, but the roundabout is a $600,000 improvement that this Board made with the fountain and the brickwork and everything that we have there. People, one day I came home, and they pulled right over the top of curbs, right down to the waters edge and parked their vehicles. Unbelievable where their vehicles were parked. I took pictures. I called the police. See down there between the bottom sidewalk and the water, that is where their vehicles were parked. One was parked across the sidewalk there, the red brick sidewalk. I was going to the gym at 2:00 in the afternoon. I pulled up and almost had a heart attack. I could not believe these people were that stupid when they could have parked at the park or something like that. That is why we established no fishing in Turtle Run and things like that. This is what people do. They come from other communities. I said you don’t have the foresight to see that you shouldn’t park cars down here. They were like no. That is

why we do things the way we do to keep that area looking like that. Anyway that is all I have.
Mr. Carney: I need a motion to adjourn.

TWELFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Adjournment

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Shipe with all in favor, the meeting was adjourned.

Assistant Secretary/Secretary	Chairman/Vice Chairman